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Google charge too but one-time registration fee for the Chrome developer account itself; no extra charge for any number of extensions.


Apple needs to match that too; one-time fee of 5-10$ and submit any number of extensions. They can just charge 1% tax on paid extensions.
 
I didn't know this. Looking forward to it! I switched last year to using Safari as my primary browser and it's actually going pretty well. I've tried before in the past and this is the first time it has stuck.
 
Oh, I had so much hope there - thinking this might get us real Ublock Origin type extensions, but the restrictions Apple has in place preventing those, haven't changed.

I wish Apple or someone else would (re)introduce a WebKit based browser for other platforms. Google has a stranglehold on the web, Firefox is nearly dead and Microsoft’s answer is a (admittedly rather good) Chrome skin.

Yes, I wish they would go with a 64 bit Windows and Android browser with sync across them.

I have a feeling it would kill Firefox - but with the way Mozilla / Firefox management is operating (just look at their Reddit for their Android release they just did for a taste) and no mobile default for Firefox - that looks pretty inevitable. Saying that as I type on Firefox.

I've pondered the idea of Apple going with Firefox as their default browser so they don't have to develop it anymore, but can't see them do that (let alone hitching your wagon to Mozilla management's brain dead decisions with Firefox).
 
Dumb question here, but will the new version of Safari be made available on Catalina?

I have a “end of the road” Mac but don’t want to be left behind completely or juggle browsers. Sure I have Chrome, but Safari has always been my choice as of late.
 
I wish Apple or someone else would (re)introduce a WebKit based browser for other platforms. Google has a stranglehold on the web, Firefox is nearly dead and Microsoft’s answer is a (admittedly rather good) Chrome skin.
Oh god please no, why? Now that the web is pretty much standardized, web developers can use modern features across all browsers without having to worry about incompatibilities. The current state of the web is what web developers dreamed of in the 90s and 2000s.
 
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Oh god please no, why? Now that the web is pretty much standardized, web developers can use modern features across all browsers without having to worry about incompatibilities. The current state of the web is what web developers dreamed of in the 90s and 2000s.

I've not looked into the governance on Chromium. If Google decided one day to make changes that were hostile to the other browser vendors that use it, what are the consequences? I am all for standardisation so long as no one party controls that standard.
 
It's not quite as simple as they make it sound. Lots of restrictions mean that 'real' ad blockers like uBlock Origin can't be ported :/
Yeah, it’s not as straightforward as described. I tried porting the Vue DevTools, and though the button showed up in the toolbar, the panel wouldn’t show up. I didn’t get a chance to research why it wouldn’t show up, though, but that was with beta 1; maybe with the next one I might have better luck.
 
Just like Chrome, except you have to pay $99/year to distribute your extensions!
No kidding. You'd think a trillion dollar company would make it easier on developers. I suppose they're trying to weed out the wannabe developers who aren't very serious.
 
No kidding. You'd think a trillion dollar company would make it easier on developers. I suppose they're trying to weed out the wannabe developers who aren't very serious.
The fee is only to publish to the App Store. You can always not pay for it and publish on your own. The users would simply need to side-load the extensions (meaning acknowledge that there might be risks for installing that way), just like with apps.
 
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Does this support uBlock Origin? I love Safari, but had to give it up because of all the ads. The iCloud bookmarks extension is a life saver! Also, does Apple have to pay Google $99/year for their Chrome extensions?
 
The fee is only to publish to the App Store. You can always not pay for it and publish on your own. The users would simply need to side-load the extensions (meaning acknowledge that there might be risks for installing that way), just like with apps.

The resentment is justified. It costs only $5 to register to submit to the Chrome Web Store. What more are you getting for your extra $95?
 
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I've not looked into the governance on Chromium. If Google decided one day to make changes that were hostile to the other browser vendors that use it, what are the consequences? I am all for standardisation so long as no one party controls that standard.
Chromium is free and open source. Anyone can implement it, fork it (modify it) and redistribute it without paying fees to google (cough cough). If google were to make changes that a vendor doesn’t like then said vendor can just fork the older version.
 
Oh god please no, why? Now that the web is pretty much standardized, web developers can use modern features across all browsers without having to worry about incompatibilities. The current state of the web is what web developers dreamed of in the 90s and 2000s.

There are 1.5b iOS users using Webkit (Safari) right now.

Web developers already have to code for Webkit support, so there's no harm in bringing it to Windows and other platforms. Just means more users using the same engine.
 
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Safari is a forgotten browser I’d argue. Nowadays the web browser choice is either google chrome/any chromium skin or Firefox, and nothing else. Apple certainly sees their Safari lacking extension support, but putting $99/year as the bar of entry?

Chromium is free and open source. Anyone can implement it, fork it (modify it) and redistribute it without paying fees to google (cough cough).
Technically it is correct, but the reality is, what’s the off chance of an average user knowing other browser choices outside of google chrome, Firefox and maybe safari? Google at this point can just flip a switch to turn the entire web browser industry into everlasting chaos because so many other browsers uses some flavours of Chromium one way or another. Sure, other forked chromium browsers can choose to not adapt, but website rendering issue will force them to adapt as time goes on. See the problem here?
 
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