Apple Removes '2024' Timeframe From Next-Generation CarPlay Page

[neuropsychguy]

Welcome to Tim Cook's Apple, a land of broken promises

"It is unclear if Apple, car makers, or both are to blame for the missed 2024 target."

What's Apple supposed to do? Put out the next generation of CarPlay without dealing with automobile manufacturers?

Maybe this is completely on the heads of Apple's engineers and thus "Tim Cook's Apple" but it's just as likely that it's entirely the fault of the automobile companies. CarPlay is not something Apple has full control over top to bottom. It has to integrate into existing and future hardware (car computer and the car itself), firmware, and software on the vehicles for multiple different manufacturers.

It's a little like Microsoft and Windows having to work with a lot of different hardware except that instead of having the hardware designed for Windows, Apple is dealing with hardware designed without CarPlay in mind. Most/all of the automobile manufacturers design the cars and their own infotainment hardware and software and CarPlay gets more or less tacked on. That's not to say there is zero consideration of CarPlay, but it's highly unlikely to be the most important consideration a company makes when designing a car.

I'm not saying Apple isn't at fault. I'm saying there are other issues to consider.

 

[Polinsky]

But I don’t favor touchscreens since they accumulate a lot of finger prints.

Really? What about touching iPads and other devices? Would you not use a iPhone because you have to touch the screen. Just curious.

 

[segfaultdotorg]

Think of the millions of lives ruined because this wasn’t released in 2024 as promised! I hope there is a class action lawsuit.

 

[kramerdude]

Man, I would absolutely hate to drive that car with the entire dashboard being a screen. It's bad enough with some of these pickups like RAM that have those huge plasma TV looking displays. I had one as a rental and it was awful having to take your eyes off the road to make temperature or seat heating adjustments, etc. So dangerous.

 

[Keymaster]

Volvo has told owners (including me) that a brand new interface for the AAOS cars is coming early this year. No date obviously, but it sounded like by spring we'd hear more details or have it ready to install. It sounds like a major upgrade to the system, and would be a good time to do something like the new CarPlay, though that might come later as it requires the manufacturer to do work to integrate it. If Volvo updates their system without any mention of next generation CarPlay, that's the time to wonder if it's going to happen at all, as Volvo has seemed very supportive of it to this point.

 

[goonie4life9]

This is what happens when you place privacy above all else. Apple wasn't a good partner and car makers turned to Google.

 

[CarAnalogy]

Here you go, Apple's response to me:

The large print giveth, the fine print taketh away. This sounds like a much more realistic statement, but doesn’t play as well on stage.

 

[Apple_Robert]

I think Apple made a lot of assumptions and then made a press release too soon, and what we are seeing is the results.

 

[johnsawyercjs]

The layout of items in the article's first dashboard image is absurd--not the width of the display, but the fact that several of the items that the driver might need to interact with, like the phone panel, are so far to the right that the driver runs the risk of taking too much of their attention off of the road in front of them. The right third of the panel makes sense for front passenger use, but if it's the only location where anyone in front can use the music player, that's a problem since using Siri instead for voice control for playing music often doesn't work well. Having the Map app just in front of the steering wheel makes sense, but not if it's so obscured by the two "dials" to left and right. The low position of the main iPad-like control panel would also take the driver's attention off of the road too much. I guess the locations of items in the two panels are customizable to some degree, but still.

But the layouts of some of the controls in a lot of cars without these big display panels are also sometimes absurd.

 

[amaze1499]

Is FM radio still a thing?

 

[svish]

Expecting to see it in at least a few car models this year. Maybe by WWDC, Apple will announce something.

 

[SilmarilFinder]

Would update include current CarPlay vehicles or only for new vehicles due to hardware requirements?

For newer cars due to hardware requirements.

 

[everlast3434]

Apple just completely made this up, during a time when they had nothing new to introduce when the world had supply chain issues. What a joke.

 

[turbineseaplane]

• Missed Deadline: Fixed! ✅

 

[turbineseaplane]

The hilariously silly thing about these huge screens is how bad they are to interact with while actually driving...

Putting things like climate on there is just totally missing the mark

They'd be hard pressed to ever beat something like this .. clear, simple, lightning quick to use, real buttons, easy to use without looking.

 

[jfreedle2]

Apple's website said the first vehicle models with support for next-generation CarPlay would "arrive in 2024," but that did not happen. A little more than three weeks into 2025, Apple has now updated its website in the U.S. to remove that 2024 timeframe from the next-generation CarPlay section of its overall CarPlay page.

The fact that Apple did not remove the entire next-generation CarPlay section from the page suggests that the software might still launch at some point in the future, but Apple is no longer providing a timeframe at this point.

It is unclear if Apple, car makers, or both are to blame for the missed 2024 target. We have reached out to Apple for comment.

Apple first previewed next-generation CarPlay at WWDC 2022, and there are still signs that it might eventually launch at some point. First, additional references to next-generation CarPlay were added in the iOS 18.3 beta's code. Second, Apple filed some additional next-generation CarPlay images in a EU database last month.

Apple promised that next-generation CarPlay would have deep integration with the instrument cluster and climate controls, support for multiple displays across the dashboard, a dedicated FM radio app, customizable widgets, and more. The interface would be tailored to each vehicle model and automaker's brand identity.

Here is how Apple describes it:If it ever launches, next-generation CarPlay is expected to be available in new vehicles only. It is not an update to the standard CarPlay software.

In December 2023, Aston Martin and Porsche previewed next-generation CarPlay instrument cluster designs, but neither brand has rolled out the system. Apple said other committed car makers included Acura, Audi, Ford, Honda, Infiniti, Jaguar, Land Rover, Lincoln, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Polestar, Renault, and Volvo. Given that list is more than two and a half years old, it is unclear if all of those car makers remain committed.

Update: Apple said several car makers still plan to support next-generation CarPlay.

The company's full statement:Apple did not provide an updated timeframe.

Article Link: Apple Removes '2024' Timeframe From Next-Generation CarPlay Page

I am looking forward to every vehicle having the new version of CarPlay!

 

[jfreedle2]

The hilariously silly thing about these huge screens is how bad they are to interact with while actually driving...

Putting things like climate on there is just totally missing the mark

They'd be hard pressed to ever beat something like this .. clear, simple, lightning quick to use, real buttons, easy to use without looking.

It is completely horrible to have the antiquated and physical buttons are harder to deal with hundreds of buttons that require you to look to ensure that you are selecting the correct button.

 

[turbineseaplane]

It is completely horrible to have the antiquated and physical buttons are harder to deal with hundreds of buttons that require you to look to ensure that you are selecting the correct button.

Clear buttons with different shapes and feels and consistent locations that are easy to quickly interact with and learn are absolutely better than touchscreens for critical functions that are constantly interacted with.

I do this in my car all the time. A real button with a distinct shape allows you to find it by feel without triggering anything by accident, all while my eyes stay on the road