I am phasing out iCloud from my devices, I am surprised to discover that it is in fact quite possible and fairly painless to live without being logged into iCloud. Though of course Apple does not make that easy for you
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Apple Removes All References to Controversial CSAM Scanning Feature From Its Child Safety Webpage [Updated]
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If the punishment for people who urge children into pornography is increased to 50 years in prison, no one will dare to indulge in their dirty fantasies. And if the police investigate such reports decisively. That's also how you try to deter drug dealers, otherwise there would be loads of drugs everywhere. Tackling the problem at its root makes sense.
I’m sure those nasty evil people are already using other devices to do their evil. Devices that won’t report them.
They could buy a digital camera from the supermarket that won’t scan.
Buying an I device is totally optional,
I’d rather Apple spend money on other initiatives to stop this, even just promoting that digital photos can be used as evidence relating to who purchased the camera would make potential criminals think twice.
Yet here we are three pages in, people being happy that Apple halted the project for now
Unlike Android, this is not too difficult, my dear:
No government will allow itself to get lost in the hash world of a local photo database (Mac) from the outside, that would be too intricate.
Dark are the souls of private people who find naked tortured children horny. But that's not really what this discussion is about.
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The root of the problem isn't having images. The root of the problem is mental health.
(So note, just playing "Devil's advocate" here)...
Just because a person is viewing these images and perhaps having unhealthy fantasies doesn't mean that they're going to act on those fantasies. We need to focus more on the actual root of the problem, and focus on mental health rather than just over-crowding the jails with people.
Once again, I'm not defending pedophiles, I'm just saying that locking someone up for having an "illegal image" and an unhealthy fantasy isn't tackling the problem at its root.
Ok, in re-reading this, I completely agree. Punishing the people who are CREATING child pornography I can 100% get behind. I'm sorry that I mis-read the first time.
Wishful thinking. But I’ll take whatever I get as long as that tech is withdrawn! I’m still not updating from iOS 14 for awhile but this is positive news.
I want the photographers and videomakers in prison. This is the root. They produce the food for the evil side of the soul. Of course, Evil will then look for a new field of activity, but at least the children will no longer be in focus.
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Good. I wrote Tim Cook such a lengthy email… I was really considering not using iCloud and looking at alternatives to their service. Not sure how they thought they wouldn’t receive that much backlash. From a company that touts privacy and security…
They should publicly announce these plans are scrapped. It would help their PR.
They should publicly announce these plans are scrapped. It would help their PR.
I'm not sure what this has to do with this topic. The government doesn't need to break in. If iPhotos remain stored unencrypted so Apple can scan server side, the government can show up with a warrant that says give us all Morgland's iCloud photos. Apple already complies today.
If we assume that this was step 1 in E2E iCloud photos (big assumption I know, but why else go through all this work?), the government completely loses the above ability.
From Apple's standpoint the more encrypted, the better. Then they don't have to fight a court order, but simply say they don't have the data. The problem is that encryption must be balanced with a) people losing their keys and b) Apple doesn't want to be a CSAM heaven. That's why we get keys in iCloud backups and a possible client side CSAM scanning implementation.
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The second line of your post is also applicable to the article above. ?
That would be even worse for their brand if caught. Oh, and this kind of thing can be exposed in many ways. Don’t even count out Apple employee whistle blowers. Many Apple employees were against on-device scanning.
Don’t ask me how I know…
But we do remember how Apple deliberately broke FaceTime on the iOS 6, right?
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Yes, thank's for your straight statement. That should be our demand to !
This doesn't really change anything. They've just removed references to it. I could easily see them still using it behind the scenes but just not being forthcoming. Don't be shocked if we find out later this is the case because companies do shady stuff like this all the time.
Looks like Apple might be taking a step back. Hopefully Apple abandons the plan!
Scanning server side is fine by me. As for full end to end encryption, we were never going to get that.
Was considering buying/switching to a iPhone before all this, now they removed it from the website, and while the damage has already been done, I might consider a iPhone again if Apple publicly says they'll scrap the whole thing. On second thought, I'll stick with my Pixel until then.
You really think people are doing stuff illegal, they are going to use a cloud service? Some crooks are stupid, but this wouldn’t help.
Would you be ok if the government put a camera in your house? for the sake of the children…
I’m sticking with iPhone. However, I won’t be convinced that Apple is done with this until they actually announce it. Then I will switch iCloud Photo Library back on.
