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Apple Removes All References to Controversial CSAM Scanning Feature From Its Child Safety Webpage [Updated]
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I think the concerns from cybersecurity specialists over the possibility that state actor hackers could override the limits imposed by Apple on hash tag analysis to look for things far beyond the system was originally intended is why Apple may just drop the whole idea. Especially now with both China and Russia now possessing very advanced supercomputing facilities.
Apple probably saw the need for this feature based on direct threats from Republican senators in congressional hearings.
I strongly doubt that. Apple likely saw a marketing opportunity to make themselves out as the "good guys" acting against people widely despised by everyone. They were not expecting the backlash they got and are now trying to fix the PR issues. There is no actual legal need for any of this - and Apple will find any threats made by Republicans risible.
True, but Republican senator(s) indirectly threatened Apple with harsh requirements to do it in a Congressional hearing.
U.S. senators threaten Facebook, Apple with encryption regulation
“You’re going to find a way to do this or we’re going to go do it for you,” said Senator Lindsey Graham. “We’re not going to live in a world where a bunch of child abusers have a safe haven to practice their craft. Period. End of discussion.”U.S. senators threaten Facebook, Apple with encryption regulation
U.S. senators grilled Apple Inc and Facebook Inc executives over their encryption practices on Tuesday and threatened to regulate the technology unless the companies make encrypted user data accessible to law enforcement.
This was in December 2019 and the timeline fits very well with Apple starting on the CSAM Detection system in early 2020.
Honest question though.
In regards to this CSAM detection on device scanning. Will they alert the FBI when they find a parent with a picture of their child taking a bath?
In regards to this CSAM detection on device scanning. Will they alert the FBI when they find a parent with a picture of their child taking a bath?
Tim Cook went from "privacy is a human right" to CSAM scanning in a month. What an absolute donut.
It’s not an argument, it’s a declaration, it’s the way it was going to be implemented. Why would anyone care if law enforcement can get access to all their images? Who knows.
I know, right? If they implemented a system to perform a content match on known “Yummy Egg Salad Sandwiches” images (call it the YESS system), then I would ABSOLUTELY have a need to be concerned. Because, I’ve got several of those on my phone, likely enough to trigger a flag and I’d definitely be reported.
The content matching they’re talking about here? No worries.
Next up, I don’t want the government having my number in their Amber alert system. I DIDN’T TAKE NO KIDS!!You clearly do not understand how the system works if you thought this would work. I really wish folks would read the public material that Apple already published on how it works and the checks it uses to prevent exactly what you are mindlessly spouting.
Don’t just read the headlines. Really read the whole article and if it has holes then speak to those.
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An interesting article and possibly/likely true. It is important to remember that this is an article that someone states Apple told them this and not a statement from Apple directly. Do you have anything that is from Apple that states this? Apple will sometimes dispute claims that are false in the press but often they do not address them either.
Apple already scans iCloud Mail for CSAM, but not iCloud Photos - 9to5Mac
Apple has confirmed to me that it already scans iCloud Mail for CSAM, and has been doing so since 2019. It has not, however, been scanning ...9to5mac.com
Apple has already admitted to scanning email, and stated they don't want CSAM on their servers. It's not a big leap of logic if client side CSAM isn't implemented, they'll just do what every other cloud provider has done for years and scan iPhoto images on the server (if they are not already).
Sorry I didn’t post on page one. I busy sleeping in instead of waiting to be the first to post on this hot topic.
Putting a camera in my home and what Apple wants to do are 100% different things. Ether you are dumbing down your analogy to try and win an argument or you really don’t understand how Apple’s system is suppose to work.
It isn’t as far off of an analogy as you imagine it is. Client side scanning is the equivalent of them looking at something on your property instead of waiting until it is on their property as is with server side scanning.
Really sad that Apple hasn’t dropped the whole project. If they want to do it, then do it in their iCloud database. Keep it off of everyone’s devices.
That’s because you have zero understanding of what it is or how it works. Ignorance is bliss, huh?
State Hacker can just build they own spyware. They are doing that right now btw. This fear you guys have about CSAM is laughable.
He said they scan server-side rather than client-side. This is already well known, and they aren't the only ones who do so. Google, DropBox, et all have been scanning server-side for years.
Then, by all means, protect your own kids. Don't subject everyone else to government overreach and intrusion simply because you can't be bothered to watch over your flesh and blood effectively. That's literally half the job description of a parent.
To put this "dangerous" technology -- as described by its inventors -- on as many as possible out of a billion devices, is a set up for potentially the most far-reaching crime against humanity in history.