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And yet on all the years iOS has existed and with its popularity there are still none.

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Not sure that even a virus scanner would help with that type of mentality.

Head in the sand or facing reality, up to you really. I know what my preference is.

With the introduction of Apple pay, it might now become profitable for criminals to target iOS.
 
Any number of vulnerabilities in iOS and OS X can be exploited to install a virus. The only question is when the first big one hits.

And yet none of these iOS apps will find those hypothetical viruses, so why would you install one?

The right place for email virus scanners is email servers.
 
Thank god, we don't need that crap on iOS or on Macs. Plain and simple, you don't need antivirus on Apple platforms. Period. I've used Macs since 1990 and not once have I ever conceived of the notion of installing antivirus on my Macs.
I can't tell if it's sarcasm or not. Now, I've never installed an antivirus since I switched to Mac OS X either, but that doesn't mean that I believe that Mac OS would somehow be the only virus-free OS out there.
 
Oh well, the whole category of "antivirus apps" is disappearing from the shiny store, because it doesn't fit into Apple's happy bright world (with golden bars behind the curtain), regardless, if iOS gets viruses or not.

Again, think about a possible scenario, when you forward or re-send some email with attachments to a customer and just would like to check it for being infection free...
 
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Head in the sand or facing reality, up to you really. I know what my preference is.

With the introduction of Apple pay, it might now become profitable for criminals to target iOS.

Facing what reality? And doing what about the non-existent threats?
 
Would have been a good app for those looking out for their brothers and sisters with weaker OSes.

What better way to test a file that could be a virus; on an iOS device that won't be harmed or on a Windows device that may not have the latest virus definitions installed?
 
Why ? A Virus scanner is still useful even for iOS. Someone may still send you virus mails and it's possible that you'll forward them to another victim without alert.

Most email services have very robust virus scanning already, making such apps rather redundant. That is not to discount those DIY email servers without virus and malware scanner. But most people don't need these apps anymore.
 
I've heard that iOS apps runs in a sandbox. If that is true, how does this app scans any file on the device other than the ones created by itself?

Not all files. But some files reachable through programming APIs. Email attachments might be part of it (quite sure, but never looked for it myself) or Dropbox (works for sure, after user allows).
 
i was a fanatic about virus scanners and blockers when i was on windows (i had several running concurrently). once i moved to apple i immediately installed norton on my mac. but to be honest i have chilled quite a bit since then. i have browser extensions that help me with bad websites and fishing, but beyond that i feel better in the mac world. in the iphone/ipad world i go naked. i just dont worry about it. however, if there were safari extensions for ios like woot or adblcoker, i would probably get those.

Norton? Lol
 
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Any number of vulnerabilities in iOS and OS X can be exploited to install a virus. The only question is when the first big one hits.

That same song has been playing for years and years and years.

People used to say that "Macs aren't worth the trouble - there are so few of them." Now, according to your theory, there isn't anyone interested in giving the largest corporation in the world a black eye.

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iPhone: "Cannot open ValentineCard.exe"
User: "Hm, I guess I'll forward it onto everyone!"

Exactly. What companies should focus on writing is a Common Sense Scanner.
 
Can whoever wrote the article please stop using "company" as a placeholder for several companies? It's kind of confusing. Writing "Apple" and "Intego" are both shorter than the word "company".
 
Thank god, we don't need that crap on iOS or on Macs. Plain and simple, you don't need antivirus on Apple platforms. Period. I've used Macs since 1990 and not once have I ever conceived of the notion of installing antivirus on my Macs.

I wouldn't even install it on Windows nowadays. Better to just be careful instead of installing antivirus crap. Maybe just something that can scan files individually if you really want to open a possibly bad executable.

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Why ? A Virus scanner is still useful even for iOS. Someone may still send you virus mails and it's possible that you'll forward them to another victim without alert.

It's either the other guy's problem or your own stupidity if that happens. Why forward suspicious emails to people if you expect them to open attachments? If they're vulnerable, they shouldn't open executable files from emails of unknown origin without scanning them anyway. Adding virus scanning to iOS is redundant.

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A quick search would prove to everyone that iOS is just as vulnerable to viruses as everyone else.

https://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/search-results?query=iOS+apple&search_type=all&cves=on

Any number of vulnerabilities in iOS and OS X can be exploited to install a virus. The only question is when the first big one hits.

Careful. Virus ≠ malware. Virus ⊂ malware. Malware ⊄ virus. A lot of things on that list are also not even about malware but other kinds of vulnerabilities. So yeah, iOS isn't completely safe, but viruses in particular are not a threat.
 
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Of course people never read the descriptions, same way people never read EULA's cos often their long, which is Apple most try and keep it short, in the hope, but still users never take the time...

They just ant the app, the software, and get back to work.

I understand where Apple is coming from, but maybe they should of said "exactly" to the point, which is "there is no what a mac attachment can be infected" rather than the general term "iOS does not get viruses."

direct approach is always better in the end... And i keep doing this do them too...

Its not that we're dumb by any means...We just "want Apple" to say it themselves. instead of just assuming. Makes us all feel better in the end.


These are all fake sites ...... there is no direct links to anything........ and no one can prove that either.. I stand by that 100%....... The act of saying "just because its not out there, doesn't mean it's not real." is probably a true statement, but still, how many of us do not have jailbroken iOS devices which are affected ? 0.

You must jailbreak,at which point there is no security... so there is no issue anyway.
 
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And yet none of these iOS apps will find those hypothetical viruses, so why would you install one?

The right place for email virus scanners is email servers.

But remember, people need to be extra careful to not get viruses or malware on iOS or OS X. On Windows and Android, however, avoiding viruses is just a matter of common sense. :roll eyes:

Oh well, the whole category of "antivirus apps" is disappearing from the shiny store, because it doesn't fit into Apple's happy bright world (with golden bars behind the curtain), regardless, if iOS gets viruses or not.

Again, think about a possible scenario, when you forward or re-send some email with attachments to a customer and just would like to check it for being infection free...

But, oh wonder, Apple only wants wants to protect our kids, by praising jolly rainbow equality, - you know...

In fact, you can smash somebody's head in certain iOS games, but in the app's description and screenshots you have to blur the weapon being used , but not the head being smashed ... Done for kid safety, of course.

Mad world...

Where are you getting this attachment from, and why has it not gone through a virus scanner somewhere else? If a business is relying on smartphones to detect viruses, I'd say they have bigger problems.

And going from discussing uses of anti-virus software to "praising jolly rainbow equality" and smashing heads? You have a lot of angst towards Apple, that's for sure.
 
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There are no known viruses for the mac in the wild. Malwares and Trojans, sure. No viruses.

Whilst you might be right, in the real world who cares. Someone who has been taken by either will not care for the distinction. I have no idea why Mac users have to go to such lengths to do this.

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…….same way people never read EULA's cos often their long, which is Apple most try and keep it short, in the hope, but still users never take the time...
Please tell me you’re joking. You’ve seen the iTunes T’s & C’s right? The Yosemite EULA I believe is 444, yes that’s four hundred and forty four, pages long.
 
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After reading his "obnoxiously" clear rewording of the App Store description, Apple should have told Intego CEO Jeff Erwin this:

"You're scanning it wrong."
 
Whilst you might be right, in the real world who cares. Someone who has been taken by either will not care for the distinction. I have no idea why Mac users have to go to such lengths to do this.

The difference is pretty significant since you don't have to actually give the malware root access or any permission to install for it to classify as a virus. And, it can infect other files on your computer. A virus, thus, has the potential to do way more harm, and prevent itself from being deleted. Again, no viruses for the mac exist in the wild. So to use your words, "who cares"?
 
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The difference is pretty significant since you don't have to actually give the malware root access or any permission to install for it to classify as a virus. And, it can infect other files on your computer. A virus, thus, has the potential to do way more harm, and prevent itself from being deleted. Again, no viruses for the mac exist in the wild. So to use your words, "who cares"?

To your everyday person who has an infected computer there is little difference. To he/she that has lost credit card details and personal data it isn't that important. No KNOWN viruses exist. It seems only on Mac forums they spend more time arguing about the difference rather than fixing the problem so I’ll leave it there otherwise this becomes self perpetuating.
 
i was a fanatic about virus scanners and blockers when i was on windows (i had several running concurrently). once i moved to apple i immediately installed norton on my mac. but to be honest i have chilled quite a bit since then. i have browser extensions that help me with bad websites and fishing, but beyond that i feel better in the mac world. in the iphone/ipad world i go naked. i just dont worry about it. however, if there were safari extensions for ios like woot or adblcoker, i would probably get those.

Norton ### you made my morning
 
Whilst you might be right, in the real world who cares. Someone who has been taken by either will not care for the distinction. I have no idea why Mac users have to go to such lengths to do this.

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Please tell me you’re joking. You’ve seen the iTunes T’s & C’s right? The Yosemite EULA I believe is 444, yes that’s four hundred and forty four, pages long.

Yes,i have seen it but there is no way i'm reading that.. I believe in telling the truth, so that's what i'm doing.....

I don't mind short text, and/or maybe skimp over stuff like when needed, or the time comes, but i certainly do not read this stuff in advance, and not 444 pages...

Its like a novel...
 
Yes,i have seen it but there is no way i'm reading that.. I believe in telling the truth, so that's what i'm doing.....

I don't mind short text, and/or maybe skimp over stuff like when needed, or the time comes, but i certainly do not read this stuff in advance, and not 444 pages...

Its like a novel...

The english section is 12 pages.
 
I can't tell if it's sarcasm or not. Now, I've never installed an antivirus since I switched to Mac OS X either, but that doesn't mean that I believe that Mac OS would somehow be the only virus-free OS out there.

Apple isn't even the only one that can claim that anymore as Google claims that ChromeOS is virus-free as well, based on their commercials for Chromebooks.
 
Most email services have very robust virus scanning already, making such apps rather redundant. That is not to discount those DIY email servers without virus and malware scanner. But most people don't need these apps anymore.

Well, I'm not American and, unfortunately, those cheap DIY email services are the favorite choose for most companies here. Mail services with anti-virus will charge for extra cost, and I've never met any boss having enough sense to accept the offer. So you can imagine, mail-spread malware (especially Botnet mail spams) are quite common. We've just suffered from a large scale of Botnet attack within my company months ago, and of course, I'm not affected at all.
 
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