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Apple Removes Pocket Casts Podcast App From Chinese App Store
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Lol, one of the quickest examples of Godwin’s Law I’ve ever seen... 😂
I’m pretty sure a subset of that rule is: 1st person to stoop to the inevitable and tedious Nazi comparisons during an online conversation automatically loses the argument.
Better luck next time! =)
You like perpetuating decades of institutionalized racism? You like having the cops killing people at will and walking away scot free? You like police loaded up with military gear, beating and tear gassing crowds of innocent protestors while they’re protesting against police violence? You like a cowardly bully having police use chemical agents to clear a crowd of peaceful protestors so he can go have a photo op?
If Communist Party of China spent as much efforts regulating wet markets, we would not have COVID-19 pandemics.
At some point, the world will need to do something about China. Hopefully though, Chinese citizens can rise up and stand up to the CCP.
I love Apple...but come on. They are always standing by rights to privacy here...but then bend over backwards to please China’s totalitarian crackdown on free speech & privacy there. Enough Apple. Walk your talk. Put pressure on China. Not the other way around!
Apple and other companies look at China and see a huge, still mostly untapped, nascent market - it's very hard to walk away from. Plus the Chinese government has been very willing to use whatever leverage they have with a company to club them into compliance - and Apple is currently very dependent on Foxconn.
I agree Apple should take a stand... but I can see why it's hard for them to do so. Moving their manufacturing out of China at least in part would be a good start. I know Foxconn is working on manufacturing elsewhere, but Foxconn is still a Chinese company - so a Chinese-owned plant in Malaysia would probably not be much of an improvement.
Apple puts a peep of pressure on China, and China will shut down every Foxconn plant in the country.
Apple’s top priority is not human rights or privacy, it’s the pursuit of the almighty dollar.
Uh, Foxconn is a Taiwanese company. That's very, very different.
Part of this problem was created by Apple. Their supply chain is too dependent on China to really stand up to the government. It will take years but I hope Apple can eventually be in a position where it’s not so dependent on any one country.
Thank you for the correction. Given' Foxconn's heavy presence in mainland China, being Taiwanese doesn't mean China doesn't have influence over them - but at least it's not at the "cooperate or we'll disappear you" level.
China’s android phone no longer runs google android due to sanctions, and the open source version isn’t particularly up to the compatibility level either, meaning unless some crazy involvements on google side, many android apps will not be able to install on Chinese android devices. Plus, even for what’s left of google android, related google services are either completely removed or put behind company's personal identity check, meaning app support for anything developed outside China is natural lay terrible.
For people who actually want to listen to those podcasts, they will find a way either way. For those who are unaware of this app (which is the majority), they don’t care either.
Kowtows to China. Virtue signals here in the U.S.
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Well, since all cops are violent in your summation above, all protesters are looters, rioters, pillagers and plunderers.
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Well, since all cops are violent in your summation above, all protesters are looters, rioters, pillagers and plunderers.
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Guaranteed if any of you bashing Apple for doing this, you would not be going against China’s law if you were CEO.
With raising Apple's value from ~$300 million when he took over in 2011 to over $1.5 trillion today, Tim hasn't been any slouch on the money making side of things.
Right, so lets all just be honest about Apple's selective outrage and virtue signalling where it is safe, not where it takes real courage.
Coca Cola is just one of the American companies that comes to my mind that was perfectly fine doing business with Nazi Germany. People seem to forget too fast.
Don't forget Henry Ford who received the Grand Cross of the German Eagle from Hitler. The highest Nazi award to a foreign person.
If you strongly believe China regime is of that level of evil, why don’t you YOURSELF initiates a war to rectify it, instead of trying to shoveling that burden onto Apple. Apple is not responsible for your personal ideology!
It stands to reason that an American citizen in charge of an American company would be in a position to speak out on matters happening in their own country. And Tim Cook can do so in the US in his capacity as the CEO of Apple because the laws allow for it. Such openness is just not possible in other countries like China.
In the same vein, I don’t think Tim Cook would have sufficient knowledge and context of a country’s history to comment on why certain things are done the way they are and personally, I would rather he doesn’t.
I live in Singapore. I have my beef with the way our government does certain things, but the last thing I would want would be for Apple or any other US company to butt in and try to interfere with our country.
Second, I think Americans need to understand that not every country necessarily shares their values. Apple is not a political entity tasked with undermining political institutions, however much some of you might wish for Apple to be.
Lastly, I am glad that Apple is not so close-minded that they would choose only to do business in countries with laws that match their beliefs. This would result in Apple operating in only a small number of countries, and ultimately undermine its mission of creating tools for people.
At the end of the day, what Tim Cook has chosen to do is engage. While he has become more comfortable discussing issues such as equality, privacy and environmental responsibility, he doesn’t weaponise them to to issue ultimatums to foreign governments.
Apple makes tools to improve people’s lives while continuing to follow local laws. I really don’t see what the issue with that is.
I’m sorry I think it’s cowardly. Just like the NBA. If you say it’s just business then I’d say stop the virtue signaling at home. It totally rings hollow.