People said the same kinds of things about black people. Why are you continuing this line of paternalism? Why do you think people are so stupid they must have their freedoms restricted? Would you support a dictatorship that will protect people from themselves?— because you sure don’t seem to support a liberal democracy. If people are too stupid in your world concerning vaping, why do we allow these morons to vote and select presidents?
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Apple Removing Vaping-Related Apps From App Store Today Amid Public Health Concerns
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None of this is to protect anyone, only the naive believe that. It really is about power, control, and greed by the elites in any geographic area.
I agree. From what I have read the people who are affected are the ones who are buying knock off cartridges laced with CBD or just plain knockoffs. No different than people huffing gas, doing whippets or any number of stupid things. You can't help people and those who will suffer are the ones who are weaning themselves from cigarettes.
The nanny state continues to expand into our lives.
I have not seen any moves to ban alcohol even though drunk drivers kill about 29 innocent people per day (~10,500 per year). At least with vaping you can only kill yourself.
The CBD isn't the problem. The problem is Vitamin E acetate that is used as a thinning agent in THC cartridges. And the bonafide vape cartridge companies do not use Vitamin E acetate.
That's a weird attitude.
Talk to your kids.
PS: I have kids too and I will never blame any external advertising for their action. I teach them to be responsible for their own actions. Never a victim of anything.
Sure there can be ads, but you don't have to buy.
You're not at the mercy of ads, they're at the mercy of you (r attention).
Nanny state haha. As if. Take a break and just think for 2 seconds about all the special interest groups who want to kill vaping. Big tobacco would be #1 on the list, but there's others too, with other motives.
Those are the ones shutting this down
The nanny state - that's just the excuse that is being used for the shutdown. Just like turrists are used as an excuse for wars, and false flags are being used as an excuse for bombing the **** out of some country.
It's interesting how in day to day life, people aren't idiots - when a used car salesman tells you that this vehicle is bomb proof you're gonna have some scepticism. Yet at the same time as soon as somehting in in any kind of media, people lose all critical thinking abilities and buy into the most aburd fairy tales. Because the TV said so. Or the NYT front page said so.
PS: Just because some obvious interests want to shut it down doesn't mean it's safe or good by the way.
I generally don't think firing up some chemical liquids with an electronic device is going to have predictable or beneficial results. The electronics will rip apart some of these molecules at a nano level and God only knows what the effects might be. My feeling is, that's not a great thing to put into my lungs. So when somebody comes and says "hey it's healthy", I don't buy it.
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Thought just crossed my mind -- no firmware updates can be applied either.
I know people are saying that "big tobacco" is behind this wave of anti-vaping sentiment, but is there any actual evidence of that or just speculation and conspiracy theory at this point? I'm open to seeing the evidence.
CDC:
- As of November 13, 2019, 2,172* cases of e-cigarette, or vaping, product use associated lung injury (EVALI) have been reported to CDC from 49 states (all except Alaska), the District of Columbia, and 2 U.S. territories (Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands).
- Forty-two deaths have been confirmed in 24 states and the District of Columbia (as of November 13, 2019).
- Latest outbreak information is updated every Thursday.
- CDC continues to work closely with FDA, states, public health partners, and clinicians on this investigation.
The cannabis apps are ok then?
Apparently so.
The Storz & Bickel app is still in the App store. But of course, those are dry herb vaporizers. It looks like all the cases of lung illness are associated with liquid concentrates containing unsafe ingredients.
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My understanding is that symptoms potentially take a week or more to become severe enough for people to visit a hospital, at which point test results will not necessarily be reliable.
THC stays in your system in detectable levels long after your last time taking it in. Longer than a week. A month is usually an agreed-upon time frame. Could be more, could be less. There's been instances where it has been detected MONTHS after last usage.
If I were to see results that show no THC...I personally, would assume you either never took it in...or it’s just been at a minimum, a month since you took it in last.
Apparently so.
The Firefly app is gone. So is the PAX app. So is the DaVinci app. So is the Ghost app.
I don't use vape apps, but I AM concerned about Apple expanding their censorship of the App Store. All the people in this thread who are cheering this decision: What happens when Apple decides to remove an app you care about because they feel it's immoral somehow? It will happen eventually.
This is the only thing Apple does that really upset me and makes me wary of them.
This is the only thing Apple does that really upset me and makes me wary of them.
TheFluffyDuck for the win on this one. It sums up the entire issue in just one sentence.
Distracted driving kills over 3000 people a year and injures 100x as many, but I noticed that Apple still sells iPhones. Maybe, just for consistency, they should let people regulate their own behavior.
In fact they've found in some cases it inhibits lung cancer. Once you perform your effort I'll provide the study.
My very first search:
Marijuana and Lung Health
The American Lung Association is concerned about the health impacts of marijuana use, especially on lung health. We caution the public against smoking marijuana because of the risk of damage to the lungs.
www.lung.org
moking marijuana clearly damages the human lung. Research shows that smoking marijuana causes chronic bronchitis and marijuana smoke has been shown to injure the cell linings of the large airways, which could explain why smoking marijuana leads to symptoms such as chronic cough, phlegm production, wheeze and acute bronchitis.4,9
Smoking marijuana has also been linked to cases of air pockets in between both lungs and between the lungs and the chest wall, as well as large air bubbles in the lungs among young to middle-aged adults, mostly heavy smokers of marijuana.
However, it's not possible to establish whether these occur more frequently among marijuana smokers than the general population.4
WebMD:
Studies that have looked for a direct link between the two have conflicting results -- some found evidence that ties marijuana to lung cancer, while other data show little to no connection.
run ya mouth some more.
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That would be fine, but there's no way to install apps on your device from other sources. If Apple is going to start censoring the distribution of apps they need to allow people to side load from other sources.
The CDC finally says that illicitly-distributed cartridges with Vitamin E Acetate is most likely the problem (something we’ve known for months...), and Apple NOW decides to remove these apps?
Absolute bull.
Absolute bull.