So are you saying everything in the Apple orchard is sweet and rosy red or do you accept that some of the Apples now taste somewhat bitter?
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Apple Reportedly Cuts iPhone XS and iPhone XR Production Orders Amid Lower-Than-Expected Demand
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When Apple asks top dollar for their phones and then puts in inferior parts like Intel modems that cause LTE/wifi problems in their phones, what the hell do they expect? When you charge the equivalent to a laptop for a baseline phone, people are going to vote with their wallets. When Samsung's pricing is used as a comparison, it's obvious that Apple's prices are too high.
Apple also slashed iPhone SE production — to zero.
That's when they lost me as a phone customer.
Ditto. I still love my SE and I will not buy a phablet or mini-phablet. Give me a new SE, and I'll pay for it. Otherwise, I skip all new iPhones.
Perhaps the issue is that the Apple of the present has little or nothing in common with the Apple "back in the day". When SJ took over the ailing company in the mid-nineties until his death 20 years later, there was a set of products and a culture to celebrate and anticipate for the future. That's gone. If the company of old was still around in spirit, as well as in product, your so-called "trolls" wouldn't be chiming in. A goodly portion of your current trolls are former Apple loyal customers unhappy with the trends of the last several years.
They are not mutually exclusive. You can be unhappy with Apple, and still word your response in a cogent and eloquent manner that adequately brings your point across. Rather than lash out like some wounded, spiteful animal.
And there also seems to be an increasing percentage of people on Macrumors forums whom I suspect don’t even use Apple products and never have or will. They just like to rant and rave about why. The bigger Apple gets, the more of those people there appear to be. It’s thankfully a vocal minority even at its current volume, but I think that’s still bad enough.
I think it says a lot when Appleinsiders is seeming more and more like the voice of reason these days.
Let’s pretend this is a real problem the public is actually aware of. Maybe they expect the same reaction people showed after Antennagate? Steve Jobs told the press, listen this is an amazing phone, if you don’t want it, you can get your money back. Otherwise, all phones have problems, you’re holding it wrong, here’s a cheap plastic bumper. Now shut up and enjoy your iPhone 4.
The price increases can't go on forever. There will come a point when the price is too ridiculous even for the Apple hardcore.
I have historically purchased every iPhone to date since the original back in 2007, but if the prices continues to rise I will only update every 2 years. I am finding it harder to justify paying these prices. I bought the iPhone XS Max 256gb and in the UK it is priced at £1249 next year it will probably be £1500 for the same model.
Apple needs to be very careful with their strategy here.
I have historically purchased every iPhone to date since the original back in 2007, but if the prices continues to rise I will only update every 2 years. I am finding it harder to justify paying these prices. I bought the iPhone XS Max 256gb and in the UK it is priced at £1249 next year it will probably be £1500 for the same model.
Apple needs to be very careful with their strategy here.
Yeah, I failed to detail the spec's on storage for the price, and I'm pretty sure that in the U.S. one could purchase 6S/6S+ phones for less from non-carrier sellers. The interesting thing is with Sprint (of which I've been a customer a long time, for better or worse) that price is ameliorated as a monthly charge, in this case probably around $15 -$20 per month. I agree, the 6S/6S+ phone is a great product, and I still refuse to buy a phone, a tablet, or any other computer device without a headphone jack, preferably with sophisticated DACs included. LG's V20/30/40 series is still absolutely stellar for sound through fine wired headphones. I own both a V40 and a 6S+. The 6S+ may, sadly, be my last iPhone.
You have selective memory. Macrumors has always had its toxicity.
I used to peruse these forums and Anandtech/Toms Hardware. You should've seen it back before 2011. I would say it's more tame now than it was before.
Right...
Only if they want to lose even more customers. At some point they'll have lost all of their unique selling points.
Yep because most users should care about sales, revenue, and profit of a company.
Still using my iPhone SE, and will continue to do so until the battery gives out.
We can only hope some day the high prices begin to price out the teenagers.
Apple’s not a very hard company to read. The trick is learning to separate your emotions when trying to evaluate their earnings and performance.
High prices mask the fact that good resale prices on used iPhones go a long way towards offsetting them (which amongst other things, means that Apple continues to grow their installed base even as sales flatline, which bodes well for their services arm).
Not to mention that even if / as iPhone sales stagnate, there are other items on the upswing, such as the Apple Watch, rumoured AR glasses and so on.
People complain when iPhone revenue made up such a huge chunk of Apple’s revenue, and now they complain when Apple moves to de-emphasise precisely that.
Apple will do just fine.
That might be it. I joined Macrumours in 2011, upon getting my first piece of Apple hardware - a 27” iMac. I remember getting a lot of advice as I was slowly figuring out the intricacies of macOS. It was a much more civil and pleasant place then.
Yes I suppose. It’s a great phone but think I have a bit of buyers remorse..
We are just a throwaway society these days and most of us don’t need the latest phones!
I need to remind myself of this in 2 years when I’m due an upgrade
I wonder if Apple fans had the same mental meltdown when the Mac Pro was introduced for the first time? I can’t afford the best Mac anymore, so I will never buy an iMac again?
Reporting revenue is misleading as it will increase when the price of the unit increases as well. Since Apple do not want to show the actual units sold for each year, no one will know if sales went up, down or remain the same. Is this the privacy Tim was always talking about?
I am going have to say cutting production as we head into the Christmas holiday means sales are slumping. Even with the recent promotions from Sam's Club and upcoming Black Friday deals, it looks like it is not enough to keep production steady.
I am going have to say cutting production as we head into the Christmas holiday means sales are slumping. Even with the recent promotions from Sam's Club and upcoming Black Friday deals, it looks like it is not enough to keep production steady.
The Mac pro was a bit different. You couldn't take it to high school and get bragging rights.
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All shareholders need to know is over all revenue and what the profit was.
I'm talking about the price to produce one unit......Their cost of producing an iPhone has gone up....this isn't rocket science
If there is one. I don't necessarily fault Apple for not carrying more new phones, its how they are segmented that's the issue. Relatively 'old' phones are now the only sub-750 option. I just don't really understand why the XR had to be a size phone, or at the very least why it was 'only' a plus sized phone.
I totally agree with you. I replaced the battery on my iP6 and it is working fine which does everything I use it for. I can wait and will only have to upgrade when I run out of memory, no longer able to update iOS or it break.
Huh?
Actually it doesn't. In fact the Pixel 3 v XS/XR camera is a close fight and it all depends what you most use your phone camera for.
Apple: Zoom/day time photos (XR bokeh) + video and audio recording
VERSUS
Pixel: front facing selfie camera and special low light mode.
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Agree with the pricing being too high and also those saying the battery replacement has affected new sales. How much not sure, but absolutely it has. I'm giving my 6s+ to my wife because it now has a new battery in it. She would have bought a new phone otherwise.
The original iPhone was a 2G phone in the era of 3G phones. 3G had been around for well over a year by the time the Original iPhone released... it definitely was compromised because of costs.
It also had a recessed 2.5mm headphone jack; not sure of the reason for the 2.5mm jack but that was a garbage compromise too.
Considering the line up. There are plenty of affordable iPhones you can buy brand new. iPhone 7 for example. Beast of a chip. Good camera. Good battery life.Yes, for today’s standards the screen with big bezels and limited storage surely isn’t competitive anymore.
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Lol, from what planet are you from?
I really hope it was meant sarcastic
What you don’t understand is Apple is totally dominant on the high end smartphone market. You can’t say all iPhones are ridiculously expensive because you sound like a hater.
You can get a brand new iPhone 7 for $449. That’s a bargain. So this crap about being too expensive is laughable.
Even the older iPhones like the 7 and 8 will be fast and lag free with software and security updates for years to come. You can’t say the same for the competition.
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I agree. I’d love to see like a iPhone 8 with a 5 inch screen and no bezels. But Apple is making bigger phones because that’s what people want. Of course there are some people that want a smaller screen, but the sales for them just aren’t there for Apple to make a production run.