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Apple Reportedly Increases iPhone 14 Shipment Expectation to 95 Million Units

d5aqoëp said:
If iPhone 14 base model having roughly same specs and dimensions as last year's iPhone 13 outsells the 13, it would send clear signal to other companies as they can use ancient SOCs in their overpriced phones and still get away. Selling third class 60Hz screens in 2022 under premium pricing is just shameful too.
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szw-mapple fan said:
Not necessarily. The calculation might also be on the number of users on previous iPhone versions who might want to upgrade. For example, if you are expecting the 14 Pro to be sold primarily to former Xs users the numbers might be lower since the Xs didn’t sell that well.

Using by last year’s SoC isn’t going to matter much either given Apple’s lead at the moment in mobile chips. If they translate the saved component costs into better camera or larger batteries it would still be an attractive phone.
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Lol living in a dream world. Apple will use last years CPU and sell the phone at the same price even though it should be lower. Everything else will be identical to the 13 and Apple will laugh as they pocket all the savings in big bonuses for Tim Cook and all.
 
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Serious question but how do they work this out?

Surely they don’t just guess? It’s millions of dollars on the line, so how do they make the decision that its going to sell well?
 
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Serious question but how do they work this out?

Surely they don’t just guess? It’s millions of dollars on the line, so how do they make the decision that its going to sell well?
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I don’t watch exact numbers from year to year, I just don’t care that much. But Apple isn’t one to just waste money. I’m sure they base it off last years sales and leave some cushion.

But they sell what they order. Whether it’s off their shelves, or someone else’s after they no longer carry it. Carriers sell older models Apple dumps long after new models are out. New and refurbished.
 
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Abazigal said:
They are certainly welcome to try.

At the end of the day, consumers vote with their wallets.

And we all know how that tends to work out for Apple ultimately.
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Unless of course you have shares in the company it’s certainly not something to smirk about if Apple does get away with it.
 
I for one am looking forward to the 14 Pro Max. The 11 PM has been a great phone but it’s time for an upgrade.
 
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Hoyboy said:
Unless of course you have shares in the company it’s certainly not something to smirk about if Apple does get away with it.
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They aren’t “getting away” with anything. They aren’t claiming one thing and then producing something else.

To be honest, I think it’s a great idea. With shortages being what they have been, why not offer a cheaper model with a larger screen for those that aren’t all about specs and the next big thing.

The shareholders aren’t hurting, and I doubt they’re sweating about this decision from Apple. Shareholders like money and right now they aren’t losing it.
 
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I believe the new camera will be the biggest change if it is indeed over 40 megapixels.

I just wonder how well it will do in the dark because the smaller the pixels are the most risk of noise.
 
q64ceo said:
I believe I'm speaking for a sizable portion of people here: I care a lot more about where it's manufactured rather than what it has inside of it.
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I live in Asia, I don't share the same level of acrimony that the west seems to harbour towards China, and I really couldn't care less where said products are manufactured.
 
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Abazigal said:
I live in Asia, I don't share the same level of acrimony that the west seems to harbour towards China, and I really couldn't care less where said products are manufactured.
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I am speaking on behalf of all Europe unlike the person representing the sizeable portion of people here.. I don't care either where the product is made in .
anyway looking forward to the new phone
 
Hoyboy said:
Unless of course you have shares in the company it’s certainly not something to smirk about if Apple does get away with it.
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I own zero shares in Apple, for whatever it's worth. And I have never bought into this argument, not least because I do not believe it is a good business strategy to keep pissing off your customer. The only explanation I can think of is that there is a fundamental disconnect between what the naysayers here think makes a good product, and what the rest of Apple's user base actually desire in one.

Hence the apparent juxtaposition where Apple releases a product that is subject to much ridicule and criticism here, while continuing to be loved and much sought after by everyone else. Seriously, just look at the last few months, and the topics which have resulted in numerous threads averaging hundreds of replies each. iPhone 7s not getting iOS 16. non-M1 iPads not getting stage manager. The M2 MBA supposedly having issues which are turning out to not really be issues in actual real world use. It's ridiculous, and I wouldn't be surprised if this was all part of some concerted negative marketing campaign against Apple.

I have categorically spoken on numerous occasions that the people here really should start trying to explain Apple's success, not explain it away. It's not about Apple getting away with putting less specs into their products, which would suggest some sort of chicanery or attempt to hoodwink the consumer. Rather, Apple continues to do what they do best - take a frustrating user experience and deliver a polished product made possible by its control over hardware and software. And this is despite their apparent weaker specs on paper, or sometimes, because of it.

To put it plainly, there is too much focus on specs and not enough on the user experience.

There is not enough of “how does one use this product to get more out of technology”.

My approach is to look at these issues from Apple’s perspective. I begin with Apple, and then I look outwards at different industries. Many people here make the mistake of covering an industry, and then they attempt to draw a link to Apple from time to time. I feel this tends to lead to error and inaccurate analysis, because then they are comparing Apple too much to other companies, and they are not allowing Apple’s unique attributes to speak for themselves or recognise how Apple is able to set themselves apart from the competition.

The best way of covering Apple is to begin with Apple. You have to focus with Apple, and then you move outwards. You start with Apple, and then you analyse the industry that Apple operates in. Instead, what I see a lot of people still do today is that they just treat Apple as any other company. But Apple does a lot of things differently, and if all you are doing is simply comparing Apple to everyone else and then go “Hey, Apple isn’t following what everyone else is doing, so I don’t think whatever Apple is doing is going to work”, I think you all go down the wrong path.

And so if I sound like I am smirking (which is probably more often than not), I am not applauding Apple "getting away with it". I am applauding Apple making the right call in designing their products to appeal to the majority of their user base, over the extremely vocal (and extremely jaded-sounding) minority here.

As they should.
 
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Abazigal said:
I own zero shares in Apple, for whatever it's worth. And I have never bought into this argument, not least because I do not believe it is a good business strategy to keep pissing off your customer. The only explanation I can think of is that there is a fundamental disconnect between what the naysayers here think makes a good product, and what the rest of Apple's user base actually desire in one.

Hence the apparent juxtaposition where Apple releases a product that is subject to much ridicule and criticism here, while continuing to be loved and much sought after by everyone else. Seriously, just look at the last few months, and the topics which have resulted in numerous threads averaging hundreds of replies each. iPhone 7s not getting iOS 16. non-M1 iPads not getting stage manager. The M2 MBA supposedly having issues which are turning out to not really be issues in actual real world use. It's ridiculous, and I wouldn't be surprised if this was all part of some concerted negative marketing campaign against Apple.

I have categorically spoken on numerous occasions that the people here really should start trying to explain Apple's success, not explain it away. It's not about Apple getting away with putting less specs into their products, which would suggest some sort of chicanery or attempt to hoodwink the consumer. Rather, Apple continues to do what they do best - take a frustrating user experience and deliver a polished product made possible by its control over hardware and software. And this is despite their apparent weaker specs on paper, or sometimes, because of it.

To put it plainly, there is too much focus on specs and not enough on the user experience.

There is not enough of “how does one use this product to get more out of technology”.

My approach is to look at these issues from Apple’s perspective. I begin with Apple, and then I look outwards at different industries. Many people here make the mistake of covering an industry, and then they attempt to draw a link to Apple from time to time. I feel this tends to lead to error and inaccurate analysis, because then they are comparing Apple too much to other companies, and they are not allowing Apple’s unique attributes to speak for themselves or recognise how Apple is able to set themselves apart from the competition.

The best way of covering Apple is to begin with Apple. You have to focus with Apple, and then you move outwards. You start with Apple, and then you analyse the industry that Apple operates in. Instead, what I see a lot of people still do today is that they just treat Apple as any other company. But Apple does a lot of things differently, and if all you are doing is simply comparing Apple to everyone else and then go “Hey, Apple isn’t following what everyone else is doing, so I don’t think whatever Apple is doing is going to work”, I think you all go down the wrong path.

And so if I sound like I am smirking (which is probably more often than not), I am not applauding Apple "getting away with it". I am applauding Apple making the right call in designing their products to appeal to the majority of their user base, over the extremely vocal (and extremely jaded-sounding) minority here.

As they should.
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Well said. That’s all I got 👍
 
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d5aqoëp said:
they can use ancient SOCs in their overpriced phones
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ok ok ok, I know people are mad, but really?
So now the A15 (fastest and most efficient mobile chip on the market) is “ancient”?
A chip thats not even a full year old, a chip that’s so good that it can be scaled up and put right into a Mac., a chip that’s (according to reports) still a good two years ahead of the competition, is somehow ancient.
 
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Disappointing. I have the 12 Pro Max in the 12 Pro Blue which is the better of the 12 Pro and 13 Pro blues. I would have liked to see a color deeper and richer than the 12 (non-Pro) blue color come to the 14 Pro Max rather than eliminating the green and blue colors in favor of purple. The Silver and Gold colors are useless, which effectively makes it Midnight/Charcoal/Black as the only viable color option. Welcome to the Tim world. (not Burton).
 
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