Apple Reportedly Planning to Launch iMac With OLED Display

[spac3duck]

Not sure the receptionist at the dentists office needs an OLED screen, but hey, why not!?

The black and white contrast on OLED for the Dental X-Rays would be great! 🩻

 

[uczcret]

I would want the display to have a very good chance of lasting 10-years with routine 'office' or home use. ASDs are very expensive, 3rd party 5K 27" displays are still expensive, and 6K 32" displays are expensive enough I'd like it to last through 2 computers systems. At the rate OLED is evolving, I take it we just don't know how today's offerings will hold up. I think about that when I see people report still using 30" Apple Cinema Displays.

That's perfectly understandable and a valid concern. The poster I was responding to called OLED crap in a (now deleted0 previous post.

 

[eifelbube]

And the refresh rate on this display will be…?

Oh no, don’t start that MHz debate again … gives me ProMotion sickness each time. But I think it’ll have a 119 MHz Pr~Motion display.
😊

 

[ChrisMac47]

.... Mac computers typically last a long, long time. ...

Too bad my 2021 M1 iMac got the "lines" screen fault last week ... $1000 for a new screen and the warranty is only 90days!

Yes, they "typically" last a long time, but the weakness of the all-in-one iMac is that if one component fails, you are in big trouble. It is not helped by Apple failing to admit design/manufacturing faults when they do occur.

My next computer will not be an iMac. Yes, they are beautiful but they are not functional for the price.

 

[cicalinarrot]

Can you point me to a similar display in size and resolution? I can´t fit more than 24, but like the high quality. I did not find 24 displays with at least 4k and similar brightness/contrast.

If that's the case (...your desk doesn't fit a 27" screen?), buy this, but take it as "I'm forced to get this" 😁
24 is a very unusual size right now. It's kids' computer size, as I see it.

Every time I say nobody should buy iMacs, there are of course people who wanted exactly this thing and are willing to take the huge compromise.
Sometimes it's for actual needs, but I feel like there's a trend of self-persuasion that leads people to believe that whatever specs Apple put in there are just the perfect ones. I've read of people telling me "but I need exactly 4.5K, 4K hurts my eyes, it's not enough". It may be true but... come one, adapt a little.

Same about quality and specs like brightness, contrast or even color accuracy.
Maybe it's not your case and you need those specs. But I'll still ask, you and all people who want an iMac: if Apple put a lower quality display on their iMac, would you be desperately looking for a third party display that has exactly those specs or just adapt to what Apple offers? Yes, it's better, and that's what they count on to sell it, but I think it's way more than most consumer could even notice.

And, of course, you may want something better even if you don't really need it, that's a totally normal thing to do, especially for what looks like a bargain, but I want people to know that it comes at the hidden price of zero repairability and zero upgradability, which many will only be able to fully understand after a few years.

 

[hanser]

If that's the case (...your desk doesn't fit a 27" screen?), buy this, but take it as "I'm forced to get this" 😁
24 is a very unusual size right now. It's kids' computer size, as I see it.

Every time I say nobody should buy iMacs, there are of course people who wanted exactly this thing and are willing to take the huge compromise.
Sometimes it's for actual needs, but I feel like there's a trend of self-persuasion that leads people to believe that whatever specs Apple put in there are just the perfect ones. I've read of people telling me "but I need exactly 4.5K, 4K hurts my eyes, it's not enough". It may be true but... come one, adapt a little.

Same about quality and specs like brightness, contrast or even color accuracy.
Maybe it's not your case and you need those specs. But I'll still ask, you and all people who want an iMac: if Apple put a lower quality display on their iMac, would you be desperately looking for a third party display that has exactly those specs or just adapt to what Apple offers? Yes, it's better, and that's what they count on to sell it, but I think it's way more than most consumer could even notice.

I had a 21 inch full hd LG monitor together with a Mac mini 2012 before. When it was time to buy a new mac, we wanted better resolution and general picture quality for a more eye pleasing experience, but did not find a monitor fitting in the small niche we have reserved for the computer. We do not work the whole day at the computer, but my wife needs it for teaching preparation and I use it mainly for photo and music organisation, tax program and some other things and browsing (that is mostly done on the iPad). We looked at the then new M1 iMac and like the picture quality. So the iMac was the best solution for us. As it may be for many people that are not represented here very much.

But my question was serious. Since I read about the potential problem of iMac with the monitor getting defective, I think about buying Mac mini again in a few years, when it is time for the iMac to go (still running perfectly). And then it would be nice not to be forced to change the whole room layout just to fit a bigger monitor in.

So I find your post a bit condescending since you have no idea about our situation. I am not a computer nerd, I do not LIKE to work at the computer per se (I have to do it at my job all day), it is just an instrument to some necessary things.

 

[cicalinarrot]

I had a 21 inch full hd LG monitor together with a Mac mini 2012 before. When it was time to buy a new mac, we wanted better resolution and general picture quality for a more eye pleasing experience, but did not find a monitor fitting in the small niche we have reserved for the computer. We do not work the whole day at the computer, but my wife needs it for teaching preparation and I use it mainly for photo and music organisation, tax program and some other things and browsing (that is mostly done on the iPad). We looked at the then new M1 iMac and like the picture quality. So the iMac was the best solution for us. As it may be for many people that are not represented here very much.

But my question was serious. Since I read about the potential problem of iMac with the monitor getting defective, I think about buying Mac mini again in a few years, when it is time for the iMac to go (still running perfectly). And then it would be nice not to be forced to change the whole room layout just to fit a bigger monitor in.

So I find your post a bit condescending since you have no idea about our situation. I am not a computer nerd, I do not LIKE to work at the computer per se (I have to do it at my job all day), it is just an instrument to some necessary things.

Sorry, as I said, it wasn't just for you, I took your comment as a starting point... and I can't judge your individual situation of course, mine was just a general consideration that, of course, has exceptions. You seem to fit a pretty specific one.

And I haven't even looked for monitors with those specs because it's quite a niche as you said, I'm positive there's nothing like the iMac (both for pros and cons). Usually, size increases before quality and panels are cut in standardised formats that Apple regularly ignores.
Most times, if you want to get something similar, you need to look into pro displays that are meant for professionals (and are priced for people who pay for them with their company's money), so the iMac looks like an even better deal.

 

[RobertPS]

All this talk of OLED burn in. OLED's don't burn in. They burn out.
It's about time Apple went with OLED for the iMac.

24" is not for me though, I can't go back from 27".

Still happy with my 27" 2020 iMac, except for the abomination that is Tahoe on it.
Still I keep Tahoe running on it, so it keeps on sending its crash reports to Apple. In the hope they will fix the Windowserver crashes. Not likely though, still happening on 26.4.

 

[ds2000]

Sticking with 24" is just annoying.

Yep, my mum has a 2014 iMac, it still works well but obviously has no new software (unless I opencore it....).
I'm considering a Neo and an external display for her. 24" in this day an age is not ok.

 

[tenthousandthings]

Can you point me to a similar display in size and resolution? I can´t fit more than 24, but like the high quality. I did not find 24 displays with at least 4k and similar brightness/contrast.

Yes, there are lots of small writing desks and other tight spaces for which 21" is perfect, 24" (diagonal, about 21.5" horizontal) at the most. I don't know of any Retina 4K monitors in production today. I guess maybe the reason that category has died out is laptops with high-quality displays, especially the 15" to 16" class.

There is a ViewSonic 24" 4K with Thunderbolt 4, the VP2488-4K. I think it is the same panel as the now-discontinued LG UltraFine 24" that Apple used to sell, 500 nits brightness and 1300:1 contrast.

There is also the ASUS ProArt PA24US, but that's a professional display priced around $1,299.

The iMac is a good size compromise, the Retina panel has been in production a long time and the quality is good.

Finally, there is the Kuycon P24U -- you can only get it direct from the factory, on Alibaba, none of the other vendors like Click Clack and Amazon have it in stock. The price and quality is good, and if you have questions about the process there is a long (currently 57 pages!) MacRumors thread with lots of people on there who have used Alibaba to buy Kuycon's 6K displays:

Kuycon G32P - 31.5″ 6K (6144×3456) IPS Black Monitor

They make a universal version of the stand they sell separately, I use it for my ASD Vesa and it works really well.

forums.macrumors.com

 

[ignatius345]

I don't care about the display size so long as they make it as thin as the iPad Pro.

They’re not going to make an actively cooled Mac as thin as a passively cooled tablet. Thermals matter. My iMac blasts quite a bit of heat out of the bottom through the fan grille when it’s working hard. If it was passively cooled like an iPad it would just throttle itself.

 

[DBRK95B]

Too bad my 2021 M1 iMac got the "lines" screen fault last week ... $1000 for a new screen and the warranty is only 90days!

Yes, they "typically" last a long time, but the weakness of the all-in-one iMac is that if one component fails, you are in big trouble. It is not helped by Apple failing to admit design/manufacturing faults when they do occur.

My next computer will not be an iMac. Yes, they are beautiful but they are not functional for the price.

I'd definitely also be pissed if that had happened to me. "Once bitten, twice shy", as they say. I was fortunate to never encounter a hardware flaw like that in over 10 years of using a 2010 iMac 21.5" or in the last 9 years of using my 2017 iMac 27". And only one of several MacBooks I have owned over the last 15 years ever died (but that's because I had accidentally left it charging during a lightning storm). So my personal impression was that Mac computers last a long, long time. But it's clear from experiences like your's that is not always the case.
I certainly wouldn't buy an iMac these days since a 27" display is not an option. A Mac Mini coupled with a good quality, reasonably priced, third-party display would be wiser. (I suppose, in your situation, you can at least still pair your M1 iMac with a separate display to squeeze a few more years of useful life out of it. In contrast, a failure of an iMac's internal components would be a total disaster even if the display itself was still functioning well. From a users' perspective, Apple never should have eliminated the target display mode function, although I understand why they did for corporate profit reasons).

 

[SDAVE]

Sticking with 24" is just annoying.

iMac Studio 27" most likely will happen.

 

[fantasyname_qwertz]

The 24" iMac has the computer guts (logic board/storage) placed in the "chin" of the machine below the display portion. They would have to do the same with a new 27" as well assuming they wanted to keep the flat front and back design language. There isn't sufficient space to cram an iMac into the current Studio Displays as they are.

thank you for this. they could put stuff in the foot of the Studio Display if they make it a bit taller, and wire it through the stand. like the g4 iMac.

 

[CPTmom2wp]

Would prefer a larger screen like the old iMacs and PLEASE, by all that is good and holy, stop with the childish kindergarten colors. We are mostly professional adults who detest primary colors in our offices and homes.

 

[DBRK95B]

Would prefer a larger screen like the old iMacs and PLEASE, by all that is good and holy, stop with the childish kindergarten colors. We are mostly professional adults who detest primary colors in our offices and homes.

As long as Apple keeps offering the "silver" iMac option for those with conservative tastes, it's not a problem. Some people must prefer those coloured iMacs (not all of them in grade school). If a sufficiently large number of adults weren't buying them, Apple definitely wouldn't keep making them. The iPhone Mini (beloved by some, including myself) was discontinued because the sales volume wasn't high enough.
I agree, however, that an iMac with larger screen would be a nice option. The current Studio Displays are just too expensive for many of us, even when paired with an inexpensive Mac Mini.

 

[Genelec8341]

I've got the 600-nit Studio Display, and 50% Brightness is about as much as my eyeballs can bear. What's the use case for representing things brighter than any real-world objects?

Same experience, different display. My 27" LG 5K monitor is rated 600 nits and I have to keep it throttled way down to 10-20% brightness in my room to keep some reasonable contrast and dynamic range.

 

[NewOldStock]

New reports nothing OLED iMac till 2027 and maybe even later like 2029 and 2030.

 

[ArmouredBear]

Would prefer a larger screen like the old iMacs and PLEASE, by all that is good and holy, stop with the childish kindergarten colors. We are mostly professional adults who detest primary colors in our offices and homes.

Speak for yourself, I'm sick of black, silver, grey, ****** everywhere, every car, every gadget, it's so boring.
Thinking only children like colour is weird as ****.

 

[drrich2]

Speak for yourself, I'm sick of black, silver, grey, ****** everywhere, every car, every gadget, it's so boring.
Thinking only children like colour is weird as ****.

Interesting exchange; a quick look at the current iMac lineup suggests there is a 'conservative' looking gray option. Seems like Apple can offer both so 'to each their own' (though it won't stop people from being appalled at other's choices). As long as you have your preference, is there any issue with other people having theirs?