Beyond pathetic a global satellite service works within the confines of the US only. The ****?!
I know it would likely be a huge bother, but you might want to read the first paragraph of the story. Or at least the headline.
Beyond pathetic a global satellite service works within the confines of the US only. The ****?!
What I meant is not that you connect to 911 from India. What I meant is it doesn't matter from where in the world you reach any satellite, it can all be handled from one point. So you're in the US connecting via a satellite to a central relay station in India which contacts 911 and handles the situation. There is no need for a global call/response structure at all.Its not about connecting the call to 911 from India, its about being able to do something about the call itself. What will US 911 do for you if you are in an emergency in India and call is connected to them... the problem statement is to have a global call/response structure that connects the subscriber to the right emergency response team/provider. Setting that organization will take some time and hence the staged rollout.
Because this is not satellite phone service. This is more like an SOS messaging platform, with Apple sitting in the middle handling the messages and dispatch. The *only* way it works with how this is designed is if Apple is prepared to do emergency dispatch in the countries it's planning on operating in.Beyond pathetic a global satellite service works within the confines of the US only. The ****?!
Hope there is no commitment to a certain time period once subscribed. Then you could just pay for for the month during which you go camping or hiking in a remote area.Apple announced that the feature will be a paid service after 2 years. The satellite SOS is the sort of feature you (hopefully) won't use, but a life saver when you need it. Most people would not want to pay a separate subscription, even if it's very cheap.
My preference is for the feature to be rolled into iCloud+ and/or Apple One subscription, but also offered as pay-per-incident feature.
It's probably wise to make sure it works really well before rolling it out everywhere.Beyond pathetic a global satellite service works within the confines of the US only. The ****?!
stick with the iPhone upgrade plan and you have "free" satellite service for life! ;-pMacRumors should also reach out to Apple to find out how much emergency satellite messaging is going to cost when the 2 year free trial period expires. Inquiring minds want to know...
Tuscany is one of the "wildest" regions (reason why it's so beautiful), so I'd expect good fiber/5G adoption being a little slower there.Oh happy to hear that. Going to Tuscany in two weeks time for the first time since the pandemic (was a yearly thing) and it's always been bit of a disaster outside of the big cities. Don't even mention the wifi offered in holiday rentals, just horrible.
I live in the Netherlands, there is hardly a place without coverage here, but then again it's densely populated so bound to be.
I mean, you just need to check GlobalStar coverage. They cover practically the whole world except for Africa so there’s no reason Apple can’t offer this worldwide other than government regulations.Good news. This sort of feature is completely pointless if restricted to only one country.
People who want this today (prior to the release of the iPhone 14) pay for it. If it’s a service that’s NOT rolled into Apple One, people who want this in the future will also pay for it.Most people would not want to pay a separate subscription, even if it's very cheap.
Got you. I misunderstood your earlier post. My bad. If you are in the US then you would be connecting to a satellite flying over you in the US anyways so not an issue.What I meant is not that you connect to 911 from India. What I meant is it doesn't matter from where in the world you reach any satellite, it can all be handled from one point. So you're in the US connecting via a satellite to a central relay station in India which contacts 911 and handles the situation. There is no need for a global call/response structure at all.
I was at first excited about this feature, but let's take a few things into consideration. This requires a line of sight to the satellite, if you are in a valley, a canyon, or heavily forested area, good luck. Not all areas are as clear as in the presentation. And if you are injured standing and pointing a phone directly at a satellite for a period of time will be difficult if not impossible depending on your injury. There is always the PB (personal beacon) device for this, and it may serve you better in tough situations.
Doubt it, Garmin inReach works worldwide, also all satellite phones. I’m actually amazed that this feature is limited to USA & CA, as it is that one feature which should literally work everywhere.I agree about the relay stations, but it's also likely a radio licensing issue. Given this is a transceiver, there are likely radio licensing hurdles in every country this is implemented.
No.It will be interesting to see after a couple years whether Apple does charge for a safety feature. Seems like if someone gets lost somewhere out in a remote area and had a satellite capable iPhone but didn’t pay for the subscription and something happens to that person….would It be considered unethical on apples part?
It may work everywhere but Apple is taking the responsibility of managing and dispatching help. That’s a level above whether or not the technology works, with a ton of responsibility and coordination with the regional nuances of getting the right help to the right place.Doubt it, Garmin inReach works worldwide, also all satellite phones. I’m actually amazed that this feature is limited to USA & CA, as it is that one feature which should literally work everywhere.
Doubt it, Garmin inReach works worldwide, also all satellite phones. I’m actually amazed that this feature is limited to USA & CA, as it is that one feature which should literally work everywhere.
Supposedly, Apple paid $450 million to fund the satellites, and paying upwards of $100 million per year for the service.People who want this today (prior to the release of the iPhone 14) pay for it. If it’s a service that’s NOT rolled into Apple One, people who want this in the future will also pay for it.
Granted, there ARE always a large number of people that never want to pay anything for anything, so most is likely still accurate.Fortunately, there are enough folks that want to pay for safety services/features/equipment that makes catering to those folks profitable.
They are already standards for that in place.What do you think it happens when you use inReach from Garmin in emergency?Its not about connecting the call to 911 from India, its about being able to do something about the call itself. What will US 911 do for you if you are in an emergency in India and call is connected to them... the problem statement is to have a global call/response structure that connects the subscriber to the right emergency response team/provider. Setting that organization will take some time and hence the staged rollout.
Wouldn’t it be better if it can be used no matter where you are in the world? Especially within territories where you are completely unfamiliar?If by completely pointless you mean millions of people can use it for emergencies over thousands of square miles, then yeah, I guess it's completely pointless.
There is a world outside of America you know. My point is that this is an feature used for emergencies. If in an emergency situation you shouldn’t have to worry about whether a feature works in your region or not, it should just work , especially when the thing connects to satellites in space. Geography shouldn’t even be a factor.Yes. There are absolute no emergencies in the U.S. that could benefit from this “pointless” feature.
Silly comment.