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Apple Reportedly Reduced Face ID Accuracy to Speed Up iPhone X Production

I’m not believing it. However, if a $1,150 iPhone doesn’t deliver because they half ass it ,I’m going with the iPhone 8 Plus. I know for a fact, that the device it’s a great iPhone.
 
DoctorTech said:
Apple claims the odds of a stranger being able to unlock a phone with FaceID is approximately 1 in 1,000,000 (about 20 times better than the 1 in 50,000 chance of a stranger being able to unlock an iPhone with TouchID). Apple also stated the odds of a different user being able unlock FaceID goes up with "close relatives". We might very well see a video on YouTube in a couple of weeks with identical twins unlocking each other's iPhones but short of a twin, I really doubt we see a legitimate (i.e. non-staged) video like you described.
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Will be a bit annoying (and silly?) as the Twins may well be able to unlock each others phone with Face ID, but would not be able to unlock each others phone with Touch ID as twins fingerprints are different.

As I think MOST sensible people here would have loved to see both Face ID and Touch ID on the phone, so that the user can select which of the two methods is best for their use-case.
As we are aware Touch ID under the screen had too many issues. It's a shame, as others, including myself have suggested Apple didn't put touch ID hidden within the Apple logo on the back.
It would have been the perfect alternative.
 
Does this mean the FaceID on "later" units manufactured for the iPhone X is more inaccurate? Is this an incentive to get early releases of the device as soon as possible?
 
Told you guys this probably wasn’t true. Almost every article you read about the iPhone X these is somewhat fake news.

I know cynics will say it’s true and Apple just denies it, but I believe they have this completely worked out before even announcing the X to the public. They aren’t half baked when they give a release date on something as important as an iPhone.
 
arcturuz said:
Even if it’s true the official statement would be to deny it.

Do you expect Apple to say yes we are reducing the accuracy of face id to ramp up production?
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Brookzy said:
Oh really? You think they'd lie? Of course they wouldn't. If the story was true, someone, somewhere, would have proof. Copies of emails between suppliers and Apple. And they would make a lot of money by proving to a court that Apple lied on record and thus misled customers right before a new product came out.

This flat out denial shows the story was false, and it is not a given that Apple would deny it.
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SwissGuy93 said:
With math. The probability was most certainly based on mathematic calculations and test cases during the development. According to Apple over a Billion datasets have been used to test Face ID.
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Again, What group has the ability to prove the accuracy isn’t 1,000,000:1?

Is Apple going to just hand over the Billion datasets to you to verify their claims? And apparently it’s no problem for you to whip that up ‘because math’?
 
Has anyone asked why it can only recognise one face? It's handy to share a phone with multiple fingerprints opening it. Would be even cooler if it logged you in and allowed each user (or fingerprint) to open a customised screen/s set.

Thumb to get you most common items, index for your productivity apps, middle finger for games. Or your friend/partner gets their own mail/messages and not yours.

Surely this is worth considering in iOS 12 unless some Android person reads this and Samsung get to do it first ;)
 
IG88 said:
Again, What group has the ability to prove the accuracy isn’t 1,000,000:1?

Is Apple going to just hand over the Billion datasets to you to verify their claims? And apparently it’s no problem for you to whip that up ‘because math’?
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No, I am not saying that it is simple. I was actually supporting your arguement that I wouldn't be that easy to check it for a third party because of the statics and calculations involved. I think the legal ramifications would be huge if Apple should not be telling the truth, so I think we just have to take the claim for what it is. Just like we did with Touch ID.
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arcturuz said:
Even if it’s true the official statement would be to deny it.

Do you expect Apple to say yes we are reducing the accuracy of face id to ramp up production?
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Yes, let's believe rumours over Apple's official statements, because that makes sense.
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macfacts said:
Looks like Apple is also 2 years behind on this technology.
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Looks like another rumour debunked to me.
 
The use of the word "reportedly" in the MacRumors title sounds so much more authoritive than "unsubstantiated rumor".
 
Rogifan said:
So you’re just fine with the bezels on the 8? Or you think Touch ID on the back of the phone would be a good experience?
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The iPhone X will have bigger software created black bezels ALL around the screen (letterboxed video as well presented during the keynote hands on), NOT just left and right, when watching video on widescreen view, if you want to avoid the notch hiding part of your video or game!! Don’t fool yourselves!...
 
I really hope FaceID is a success, because I want the feeling of not having a lock on my phone that needs constant authentication like with touchID. I want it to just be quick and seamless, and I really believe FaceID done right could make that happen. No popups saying place finger on home button, just press the app protected by biometrics and boom you’re in. Sounds great to me.
 
SwissGuy93 said:
Oh how horrible! You have to look at your phone? Truly horrific.
But sure, let's go ahead and judge a phone based on rumours! That makes sense.

And there is one big difference between being difficult to make and not being robust after being manufactured. One thing does not imply the other thing. The hands in a watch are also very fragile when handling them, but after they are mounted they do not break.
And if you think Touch ID was embraced from the very beginning then you are very mistaken. A lot of people were not very fond of the idea-
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And that's your humble opinion.
 
brian3uk said:
Why is it so unrealistic? Reducing the sensitivity of the sensor a little bit sounds exactly like something Apple would do to get to the "it just works" point.
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I'm not saying its unrealistic, i'm just saying that Tim Cook would never say something like that. Hence the "unnamed source"
 
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