Apple Reportedly Shifts to In-House Modem Engineering Led by Johny Srouji

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple has assembled an in-house modem engineering team led by its chipmaking chief Johny Srouji, according to Reuters.


    From the report:
    The report claims Srouji, senior vice president of hardware technologies at Apple, took over the company's modem design efforts in January.

    The in-house shift provides further evidence that Apple may be planning to develop its own cellular modem for future iPhones, as previously reported. Apple currently sources iPhone modems from Intel after cutting its ties with Qualcomm amid a major legal battle between Apple and Qualcomm.

    Apple is expected to release its first 5G-enabled iPhone in 2020, but it's unclear if it will have an in-house chip ready by that time. If not, a previous report said Intel will supply Apple with 5G chips, but the iPhone maker is said to be "unhappy" with Intel's progress and may have to look elsewhere.

    Article Link: Apple Reportedly Shifts to In-House Modem Engineering Led by Johny Srouji
  2. DeadSeaMac macrumors member


    Sep 18, 2013
    The sooner Apple gets Intel Modems out of the iPhone, the better experience we iPhone Customers will have.
  3. Ds6778 macrumors 6502a


    Sep 9, 2016
    Never had any issues with signal or call quality until Intel starting supplying modems to Apple. Apples desperate attempt to cry wolf caused the consumer to get a crappier product at a higher price.
  4. AngerDanger, Feb 7, 2019
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    AngerDanger macrumors 68040


    Dec 9, 2008
    He went from being in the running for Intel CEO to working to make Apple less reliant on Intel.
  5. JosephAW macrumors 68020


    May 14, 2012
    Now they can make a chip that slower than QC or even Intel, runs hot and uses more battery, but hey it doesn't include 5G or a FM receiver and is thinner yet.
  6. ph001bi macrumors regular

    May 26, 2015
    Care to share some of that insiders knowledge a bit?
    Sources please.
  7. dominiongamma macrumors 65816

    Oct 19, 2014
    Tempe, Arizona
    I question that, Apple used to be known for great quality, recently it’s been the opposite.
  8. ghostface147 macrumors 68030


    May 28, 2008
    They’ll need to pay someone for modem patents. Guess who?
  9. Steve121178 macrumors 601


    Apr 13, 2010
    Bedfordshire, UK
    I've never had a problem with them in my iPhone 7, X & Xs.

    Do you really think Apple will nail modems on their first attempt? Apple does everything on the cheap so don't expect their in-house modems to be revolutionary.
  10. pika2000 macrumors 601

    Jun 22, 2007
    Makes total sense. With Qualcomm keeps poking Apple, this will only happen sooner.
  11. gigapocket1 macrumors 65816

    Mar 15, 2009
    Wonder if they’ll try to put the processor and modem on the same chip.
  12. pika2000 macrumors 601

    Jun 22, 2007
    I think the “issue” early on was about theoretical max speed supported by the modems. To keep the spec equal, Apple “neutered” the Qualcomm modem to match intel so they don’t have to list two different specs for the iPhones. In reality, hardly anybody would reach those max speeds anyway.

    For the XS, seems like it’s more of an antenna problem due to new antenna design and support for 4x4 MIMO, not the actual modem itself. The side effect was reception in weak signal areas. It’s not helping that Apple went back to the bar-style signal indicator from the previous dots.

    I hope Apple will integrate the modem in the future with the Ax SoC. This will allow more space and better power usage than a separate modem chip.
  13. Baymowe335, Feb 7, 2019
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    Baymowe335 macrumors 68040

    Oct 6, 2017
    Yeah, the A series chips designed by Apple aren’t the best chips in the industry or anything...
  14. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    Apparently it’s someone’s poor attempt at sarcasm or humor.
  15. Glideslope macrumors 603


    Dec 7, 2007
    A quiet place in NY.
    Modems will be far more difficult than the A-Series or other Apple Silicon. The main reason is QC’s proriatary technology. Regardless of Apple’s position on their pricing it’s still their technology. Apple could possibly come out in better shape using QC Tech in an Apple designed chip fabbed by TSMC.

    Won’t be easy. However Johny S. is and has an extremely talented Silicon Team. :apple:
  16. alllexx macrumors member

    Mar 21, 2016
    Their chips have been fantastic though
  17. MoreRumors? macrumors 6502a

    Feb 28, 2018
    While we wait for Apple to complete their own modem, the carriers really need to improve and expand coverage. Even in a large city, the signal is not equal everywhere. In smaller cities, I see the signal is low and inconsistent as well. Although 5G is suppose to roll out this year, I think the hype will fall flat if carriers don't improve coverage and it will be many years before it gets better.
  18. BvizioN macrumors 601


    Mar 16, 2012
    Manchester, UK
    Source: His imagination.
  19. laptech macrumors 6502


    Apr 26, 2013
    It does not matter if Apple creates an 'in-house modem engineering team' because Qualcomm hold the patents for a huge majority of modem technology. So where is Apple going to get their modem designs from to be able to produce a modem that rivals the quality of Qualcomm?. Intel have tried and failed.
  20. I7guy macrumors P6


    Nov 30, 2013
    Gotta be in it to win it
    He must have been given some nice incentives to stay.
  21. JosephAW macrumors 68020


    May 14, 2012
    Yeah, it took them 10 iterations until they got it right and fast enough.
  22. twolf2919 macrumors regular

    Aug 26, 2014
    They seemed to have nailed their iPhone on first attempt; their in-house A processors on first attempt; their watch on first attempt; their....
    As far as Apple doing everything on the cheap - you obviously have never looked at their R&D spending.
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    What a load of nonsense.
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    AFAIK the "huge majority of modem technology" you're talking about is for 4G and below. Qualcomm's hold is much weaker on the 5G side. Maybe Apple can include its own 5G on-chip with the Ax processor and use Intel for for the older stuff. When 5G is ubiquitous, that chip could be chucked.
  23. Baymowe335 macrumors 68040

    Oct 6, 2017
    Yeah, the experience in the A series chips won’t help them at all...
  24. Delgibbons macrumors 6502a


    Dec 14, 2016
    Data speed slows down to 2.5g until you replace the battery :p
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    The t2 chip has been brill...

    Actually yeah. You're right
  25. Feyl macrumors regular


    Aug 24, 2013
    Czech Republic
    WTF are you talking about? Apple is a leader in this field since like iPhone 4.

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