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So many people comment on things from the US and have never used Spotify to see what sort of service is available from these services. You know I just which people would take 5 minutes and think if they actually know what they are talking about. Services like Spotify are changing things - it is not available in the US - the rest of the world is overtaking. I don't use it much but so many people I know use it and love it and I can see why in my limited use. All the people being so negative - it is a new way of looking at getting new music - I use to love napster for that now it seem Spotify is the way.
 
Better work with Sonos or I'm not interested. I already do Rhapsody and love it, but they move at a snail pace for app support so I'd consider something else an option.

I would actually put the pressure on Sonos if I were you to work with AirPlay. I don't think you'll have to though, it seems to me with Apple opening the doors for licensing of Airplay technology and Apple creating a very suitable replacement to Sonos for Zoned Audio with the new AppleTV, if Sonos wants to stay in the game, they're going to have to adapt.
 
If the service matches my current cable/tivo offerings I might be interested. Otherwise I have no interest whatsoever.
 
So many people comment on things from the US and have never used Spotify to see what sort of service is available from these services. You know I just which people would take 5 minutes and think if they actually know what they are talking about. Services like Spotify are changing things - it is not available in the US - the rest of the world is overtaking. I don't use it much but so many people I know use it and love it and I can see why in my limited use. All the people being so negative - it is a new way of looking at getting new music - I use to love napster for that now it seem Spotify is the way.

i agree; i am in the UK and nearly all my friends have accounts (some free and some paying) and use the service a lot. honestly it was great news if Apple did this; i guess it will be more popular outside of US
 
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Kapangas said:
So basically you can own all of the 200,000+ iTunes music that you can access anytime, anywhere. Thats around 970GBs worth of storage.

The $10-15/month pays to host and deliver from the cloud, which is much cheaper than hosting 970GBs worth of music content on a server.

200,000 songs is about 16,666 albums(12 songs per album) . Let's say an album is about $9.99, nobody is going to pay for $160000 for all the albums in the iTunes store.

Let's say you are 20 years old and you started buy an album every month until you die. For 60 years you spent only $7200-10800, but that only gives you 720 albums or 8460 songs. But for the same amount via subscription you have all the iTunes music you ever want(or don't want).

I think this is the cheapest alternative, especially to those who listen to music a lot and buys more than one album per month.

However, this is not preferable to people who listens to 2-3 new songs per month. Better to stick with $0.99 cent route.


EDIT: Actually there are over 11 million songs in iTunes
11 million songs
= 55 Terabytes
= 916,666 albums
= $9,157,493 worth of albums

And there's the little problem that you need to be connected to Internet to be able to listen to the music. No Internet connection, no music for you. I don't like that.

Yes, But spotify has an offline mode that lets you put 3333 songs on your iphone/iPod touch/iPad/computer. Which should be enough for the times when you don't have an internet connection.
 
I don't think that's for me. I tried Rhapsody which has most music more or less on demand and found it too expensive for what I need--and I think it was in the $10-$15 range. I moved on to Pandora which is perfect for my style of music streaming and their premium service is only $36 a year. :)

I'll add that one other reason that I didn't like Rhapsody is that I tend to be a bit lazy when it comes to listening to music and I would rather not have to think about what I want to listen to and just listen--so that's what I do now with my random mix of a dozen or so Pandora stations.
 
It's all about services anymore. We will have a subscription for everything in the very near future.
 
Does this mean they'd stop offering itunes to buy? And does it mean that you only get to listen to any song if you have the subscription (basically if you don't pay the subscription and you didn't buy the song you can't listen to it)?

Basically, I'd only be interested if it was one of those pay a subscription and download songs you want (or certain amount per month). IF you don't get to keep them, I'd totally not be interested. And on top of that, I'd be *PISSED* if they got rid of being able to buy them.
 
The only thing that keeps me from getting an iPod is that apple does not offer a subscription based service. I have been a Zune subscriber for the last 3 years and I love it especially now that I get 10 free downloads a month. So for $15 a month with Zune I can download probably 90% of the content that is available in the zune marketplace at no additional cost and load it to my mp3 player and listen to the content as much as I want as long as I keep paying the $15...And I get 10 songs to download that won't expire if I stop subscribing...These 10 songs would have cost me $10 - $20 (assuming 99 cent - 1.29 download cost) so it is well worth it.

I have over 60 GB of zune content downloaded to my computer and about 27 GB loaded to my zune. It would have cost thousands and thousands of dollars for me to purchase all that. I love subscription based services.

If apple decides to offer this and they match the Zune pass I will consider switching to an iPod. It will just suck having to redownload all my music again.
 
Does this mean they'd stop offering itunes to buy? And does it mean that you only get to listen to any song if you have the subscription (basically if you don't pay the subscription and you didn't buy the song you can't listen to it)?

Basically, I'd only be interested if it was one of those pay a subscription and download songs you want (or certain amount per month). IF you don't get to keep them, I'd totally not be interested. And on top of that, I'd be *PISSED* if they got rid of being able to buy them.

I completely agree. I wouldn't think they would drop the buy option though. However, if they offered the subscription as an addition to MobileMe then that would be awesome.
 
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Mkz said:
I feel sorry for whoever doesn\'t have Spotify.

Great point, Apple trying to block Spotify\'s US entry and Napster and Rhapsody out there, I would like to pay a monthy fee to have access to any music I might want to listen to that day and might not want to own it, yet the way LaLa did it was the coolest, that\'s why Apple bought them up. I think the future is streaming I don\'t like having to keep rotating my music in my devices, just give it to use like LaLa did before Apple killed them, it would have been soo cool if LaLa had a iPhone and iPad app, I would die a happy man.
 
This is an interesting idea. I wonder if you could just build playlists with every song you want and then it streams whichever one comes up.

But the music industry has fought this for so long. I wonder if they are really going to give it a try this time.
 
Hmmm. I said in This thread earlier today that i thought that Apple might be trying to start their own streaming service thats why they are trying to hold back Spotify in the US. Looks like it could be true? :rolleyes::confused:
 
It's becoming increasingly obvious that Apple is striving to have an all-you-can-eat music subscription service for sometime, and this is something they would dearly love to achieve with television and films.

I guess this subscription service could eventually become tiered i.e. to include music only, music and TV, or the complete package of music, tv and films.

This new service i.e. Itunes+?? would sit comfortably in Apple's new cloud service and would continue to place Apple at the forefront of media technology, purchase and rental.
 
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It's 2010, who pays for music anymore? ;)
 
So how will this work with people who use only iTunes Cards to purchase their music?

I would personally love a month-to-month subscription plan. I just want to listen to full songs before I buy them. 30 seconds is absolutely insufficient, and I'm tired of using YouTube.
 
Why wouldn't you pay additional money to get access to music? Nothing is free. It's perfectly reasonable to pay $15 to get access to all the music you want IMO.

Grooveshark..ah, yes. Problem: Most (like 70% or so) of their content isn't licensed by them so it's illegal, even though they use a loophole to put the legal responsibilities on the users. Grooveshark is pretty much like, say, The Pirate Bay and bit torrent technology. It can be used legally, but the large majority of the content is not. It needs to be shut down quickly.

Fair enough, grooveshark needs to tighten it's legal terms or risk being shut down. I don't host music on there but not knowing what is properly licensed means I could potentially be listening to songs that are unapproved, and I prefer supporting music and movies I enjoy. What I'm saying is that I view TV shows and DVDs as more valuable than music, so I wouldn't pay the same price for both, or technically more since the lowest netflix tier with unlimited streaming is $9. Then again, if there was a reasonable music option for under $10 I would jump at the opportunity, but I would need more than just iOS compatibility. I have an android phone, a windows PC, and an iPod Touch. Sticking with one platform isn't really an option for me. Luckily there are many ad-supported options and radio options that leave us with tight budgets still able to stream music.

I understand nothing is free, I just don't agree with tiered pricing. I like the idea of streaming music and movies, but down the road it does become an expensive option. $15 dollars a month is $180 per year. And while I'm sure some people would do so, I do not spend that much on iTunes each year. for me it's more like $40.
 
I would sign up for that the very second it was available.

+ 1 000 000
I buy a cd or two per month already from the iTunes store, but there are so many more cds from artists I love releasing every month but on a student budget I can't possibly afford them all. An unlimited music subscription at $10-$15 per month would be amazing. It's still less than 2 cds!
 
Yep. And in this time and age, renting movies follows on rank #2. And while we're at it, somebody should tell the industry that there is no justification for prices above 5 USD/EUR for a downloadable movie (NOT a rental!).


And, of course, NO DRM!

Are you serious? Who are you to tell the movie or music industry exactly what they should charge for a product? They set prices so that they remain profitable. If they sold all new movies for $5 like you suggest they likely would not be profitable and the industry would shut down.
I am astounded at the arrogance of some people! Would you come in to my store and tell me I can't sell lawnmowers at the price I want, that I HAVE to sell them at the price you want?
I'm very glad our economic system isn't run by people like you. It would collapse very quickly
 
Agreed, 100%. However, as long as they still let us purchase individual songs, I really won't care.

I don't think you should look at it as renting music, its not like you can listen to a track once and then have to return it.
Imagine being able to listen to any track in the ITMS as much as you want. Imagine being able to do this on your pc/mac or iphone/touch. It basically gives you an MASSIVE itunes library or pretty much all the music you could ever want.
I just cannot understand why anyone would not want this in favour of owning music outright.

Spotify is simply awesome. For $20 a month i get all of the above.
 
Okay, how many tracks by Freak Kitchen can you "spotify"?

Only one??? :confused: [if so, then i feel "sorry" for Spotify users.]

Point is: selection is not nearly complete.


Indeed, Spotify is far from complete but what i think we are discussing is the subscription model not the content.
I too feel sorry for those that cannot sub to Spotify, it meets my needs fully.
 
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