why would someone want to implant something in the body that'll be obsolete in 12 months?
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Reportedly Working with Australian Firm Microlatch on Fingerprint Recognition
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
You mean the swipe-pattern unlock on Android? That's less secure than the 4-digit pin. Unless it's recently been updated, you can't include the same point more than once, and, unless you *completely* clean your screen every time you do it, someone can simply follow the smudge you leave behind. (And I do mean completely, not just swipe it across your shirt a few times until you can't easily see the smudge anymore.)
Want something more secure than 4 numbers, but still simple? Turn off the 'simple pass code' option, and use a short, but unusual word.
----------
cool - now we get to see all the finger print naysayers jump on the bandwagon because apple does it.
u can't win with apple fanboys. they hate what they dont have but love what they do.
sometimes it makes me want to smash my iphone 5. but lets not.
It doesn't take being an 'Apple fanboy' to be unimpressed with fingerprint readers at this stage. It just takes being familiar with fingerprint readers, and how easily fooled they have been so far. It also takes knowing the difference between identification, authentication and authorization.
Identification: This person is Bob.
Authentication: Here's proof this person is Bob.
Authorization: This person is allowed to do this/be here.
So far, fingerprint readers do 'ok' at identification. Biometrics are a bad choice for authentication, and absolutely useless for authorization. Why? Because they can't be changed. (Or, in some cases, because they *do* change, but that change can't be controlled.)
----------
Yep. It's called my password. I don't want my fingerprint being able to be used to 'unlock' my financials for one simple reason. Current fingerprint readers are *very* easy to fool. (Like stupidly easy. Lift a fingerprint, make a mold from it, make a gelatin copy and lick it before using the fingerprint reader.)
Given that they're so easy to fool, I don't want account authorization to be tied to something I can't change when it is compromised. Heck, even if they were *hard* to fool, I wouldn't want account authorization to be tied to something I cant change *when* it is compromised.
----------
Oh, great. You've got 9 'backup copies' of your key *that are all different*. Oh, and there's a reasonably sizable portion of the world population who don't *have* fingerprints. My mother-in-law is one of them. She plays guitar (and has for years).
Oh, and thumb prints are the only ones thought to remain the same over time, and even that isn't definitively proven.
----------
So you don't know either?
(Actually, 10 years ago, my phone *had* a touchscreen. It wasn't multi-touch, but I wasn't following that particular technology branch close enough to even have *heard* about it until about 2004, and what I was hearing about then were huge, wall- or desk-sized, camera-based systems.)
----------
You mean the face-recognition unlock feature that can be faked by a photograph? That's not security.
----------
You really need to read up on fingerprints.
No, fingerprints are not secure.cool - now we get to see all the finger print naysayers jump on the bandwagon because apple does it.
That is the attitude of a defeated person.
Please post image of your fingerprint on the internet if you are not worried. I bet you will not because you only talk big.
lol.
Sure...let me enter my fingerprint scan so that Big Brother can pull them off my phone and have them at his disposal.
I'll stick to entering in a simple code.
I'll stick to entering in a simple code.
Finger prints don't disappear when you cut the finger off (unless you cut through the fingerprint) and you can call 911 without unlocking the phone.
Finger prints don't disappear when you cut the finger off (unless you cut through the fingerprint) and you can call 911 without unlocking the phone.
How do you call 911 if you can't get to the Phone app?
Small matter of programming to allow you to scan all 10 of your fingers. Just in case, you know, a few of them get cut off. This would solve a potentially serious problem for incompetent low-level Yakuza.
There's also your 10 toe prints. And your nose print too. And your tongue print.
10 + 10 + 1 + 1 = 22. Nice round number, no?
.
.
Last edited:
I'm fairly certain that Android devices will have fingerprint readers a lot sooner than Apple. Android always gets the cutting edge features first because there's always some small company out there willing to take the risk. Apple has to be very conservative because they only make one smartphone and if it's no good, then they're in big trouble, just like they are with Apple Maps. If some small Android vendor comes out with a smartphone fingerprint reader and it sucks, nobody will even care and it will just disappear from the market. Android devices already have NFC even if no one is using it.
Lord help Apple if it introduced an iPhone with a fingerprint reader and it wasn't able to read .02% of the fingerprints of consumers. Apple would be torn to shreds by the media for not offering a perfect feature. The media always over-exaggerates every small problem that an Apple device has. I don't think I've ever heard of any media complaints about the Samsung Galaxy S3 in all the time it's been on the market so it must be a perfect smartphone.
I somehow doubt people will trust android with their credit card information or passport...
By pressing the emergency call button that is available from the lock screen specifically so that you don't have to unlock the phone to call 911?
Last edited: