graph looks clearly seasonal to me. downward trend at the moment is the same as it always is when the iDevices are near end of life and new model is coming. trend is still up.
Yes because market cap is based on the share price and if revenues and profits don't grow the share price won't rise.
graph looks clearly seasonal to me. downward trend at the moment is the same as it always is when the iDevices are near end of life and new model is coming. trend is still up.
I really hope Apple goes back to a more scattered release schedule of products. Having nothing for 6-8 months and then everything all at once is not the greatest strategy to do each year.
Maybe next year it will be more spread out. It was nice having iPad updates early in the year, iPhone mid year, iPod/iTunes in the fall, and Macs throughout.
And those Mac numbers are depressing, but expected given its lack of focus.
I'd like to see the iPhone numbers split by phone.
This is a good indicator of what Apple would do with 0 new products. They're still right in line, still making money, but not growing.
They can obviously not continue this to be the world's #1 company. You have to do better.
That's a silly to say because market cap is one thing: supply and demand of the market, thus "market" cap. Amazon has been losing money but its stock price has been rising. Reed's hasn't profited for 15 years but the stock price has increased by 5 times in the last year! How would you explain that with your silly assumption?![]()
The profits are down two quarters in a row. YoY quarter result are abysmal. Where exactly have you found an upward trend? The trend is down. Profits are falling just not as fast as stock market expected.
Because it is based on what investors expect to happen, not on what has happened already.
You also don't seem to know what market cap means.
Apple needs to diversify into fridges, tractors, and so on.
Now that's the FUNNIEST thing I've seen here on MR in a while.... naaaaa Apple's customer base isn't brainwashed..... no way no how!
This. If Apple nails it with the plastic iPhone, things could get pretty sweet for Apple.
He also said that when the iPad mini was coming, and it was about to cut profits per unit in half. I don't expect a major new category coming that will suddenly dwarf iPhones and iPads or even Macs. It is all about growth of existing product lines. I want an iPad mini with Retina display and a cheaper iPhone as much as everyone, but that doesn't mean profits will also grow. This might very well be the case, but we have no hint of it actually happening. As of now there is only fantasy of growth.To say Apple is shrinking is to assume nothing new will ever come and all we'll get are incremental refreshes to existing products. OK we already know that's not the case as Cook confirmed there will be new stuff across 2014.
The rise of Amazon completely refutes your assertion. Here's a company reporting dismal results yet its stock price keeps rising. Amazon's P/E is something like 3500 while Apple's is 10.5.
The profits are down two quarters in a row. YoY quarter result are abysmal. Where exactly have you found an upward trend? The trend is down. Profits are falling just not as fast as stock market expected.
That's a silly to say because market cap is one thing: supply and demand of the market, thus "market" cap. Amazon has been losing money but its stock price has been rising. Reed's hasn't profited for 15 years but the stock price has increased by 5 times in the last year! How would you explain that with your silly assumption?![]()
I think you don't know what it means if you think I don't know what it means. You may think you know but if you think I don't know then you don't know.
Its in Apples DNA to out innovate competition, not out marketing them. iPod mini and iPad mini are examples for lower priced alternatives from Apple. But with iPhones Apple opted for selling last years model for less, instead of building a completely new line of phones. Which is a good way for utilizing existing production lines longer and partly reason for those high profit margins.As for iPhone sales, it's become clear that the iPhone 4 and 4S have good staying power. Smartphones have reached the point where cheaper models are "enough" for most people. That's why I think the rumored lower price iPhone is important. Whether it serves to replace the iPhone 4 and/or 4S, or exists alongside them in emerging markets, it may well drive future iPhone sales growth.
He also said that when the iPad mini was coming, and it was about to cut profits per unit in half. I don't expect a major new category coming that will suddenly dwarf iPhones and iPads or even Macs. It is all about growth of existing product lines. I want an iPad mini with Retina display and a cheaper iPhone as much as everyone, but that doesn't mean profits will also grow. This might very well be the case, but we have no hint of it actually happening. As of now there is only fantasy of growth.
Draw a trend line from the left hand of the graph to the right hand of the graph and it is still up.