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What are you on about? It's been pretty much a 100% consensus this would be a record breaking quarter since Apple's last reporting. Who do you think was wrong?

Did you read my post? The countless number of people who said the iPhone X would be a flop, for the reasons I stated. Are you going to claim you’ve never heard any of the excuses I gave?
 
they sold 1M less iphones than same quarter last year.
They didn't release a whole other phone that was on sale for an entire month in the quarter prior to the release of this phone. I get that it's popular to hate on the iPhone X, but don't you think it's possible that the other massively successful phone that they had syphoning off only 1 million phones in a quarter is probably not a deathknell for Apple?
 
How is this even possible?

On the iPhone X:
  • It's way too expensive at $1,000. Nobody will pay that much.
  • FaceID is useless, bring back TouchID.
  • That notch. Not only ugly but interferes with all my content and videos.
  • Glass back? I don't want a fragile phone.
On the iPhone 8:
  • Not enough of an upgrade from the iPhone 7.
  • They still kept the same basic design? Lame.
On Macs:
  • Still no Mac Mini updates? People are waiting.
  • iMac Pro? I can build a machine for 1/2 the price that's 3x as fast.
  • Still only 16GB on the MBP? I require 32GB to be productive.

So my question for all the naysayers and analysts is this. How does it feel to be wrong? Not just wrong, but utterly and spectacularly wrong?
Mac is down 5% YOY and iPhone/iPad are basically flat. Wall Street cares more about YOY growth than revenue increases. Maybe in a maturing market Wall Street will give more weight to higher ASP. But the stock is down after hours so Wall Street either didn’t like flat growth or the outlook for the March quarter was meh.
 
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Looks like a stable market to me, with peaks during product refreshes. Overall Mac sales have been growing stronger than PC OEM sales.




Almost assuredly due to the iPhone X being available for less time than the iPhone 8 family and the wait for that model.
Except PC OEMs saw growth in the current quarter. As MarketWatch put it, if HP is growing and you aren't, there's a problem. I think they should be quicker in keeping the MacBook Pro up to date, as well as the desktop Macs. It may also be time to lower the 12" MacBook price. It's a bit silly that the MacBook Air is still being sold.
 
How is this even possible?

On the iPhone X:
  • It's way too expensive at $1,000. Nobody will pay that much.
  • FaceID is useless, bring back TouchID.
  • That notch. Not only ugly but interferes with all my content and videos.
  • Glass back? I don't want a fragile phone.
On the iPhone 8:
  • Not enough of an upgrade from the iPhone 7.
  • They still kept the same basic design? Lame.
On Macs:
  • Still no Mac Mini updates? People are waiting.
  • iMac Pro? I can build a machine for 1/2 the price that's 3x as fast.
  • Still only 16GB on the MBP? I require 32GB to be productive.

So my question for all the naysayers and analysts is this. How does it feel to be wrong? Not just wrong, but utterly and spectacularly wrong?

Build me a machine for 1/2 price for iMac Pro, I'll buy it right now from you.
 
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How is this even possible?

On the iPhone X:
  • It's way too expensive at $1,000. Nobody will pay that much.
  • FaceID is useless, bring back TouchID.
  • That notch. Not only ugly but interferes with all my content and videos.
  • Glass back? I don't want a fragile phone.
On the iPhone 8:
  • Not enough of an upgrade from the iPhone 7.
  • They still kept the same basic design? Lame.
On Macs:
  • Still no Mac Mini updates? People are waiting.
  • iMac Pro? I can build a machine for 1/2 the price that's 3x as fast.
  • Still only 16GB on the MBP? I require 32GB to be productive.

So my question for all the naysayers and analysts is this. How does it feel to be wrong? Not just wrong, but utterly and spectacularly wrong?
missed estimates and they sold less iphones than last year, which was a down year...

EDIT: also, last year's flagship iphone sales number is also inherently lower as the iPhone 7 was released in Q3. This year, the iPhone X came out in Q4. So this year's numbers, which included ALL new iPhone sales in 2017, still didn't beat last year's lower and truncated iPhone sales number... I'm not sure that's a positive.
 
What do these Mac numbers show us? A stagnation, greed, or both?

Q1 12 - 5.20M Macs, $6.60B Revenue
Q1 13 - 4.06M Macs, $5.52B Revenue
Q1 14 - 4.84M Macs, $6.34B Revenue
Q1 15 - 5.52M Macs, $6.94B Revenue
Q1 16 - 5.31M Macs, $6.75B Revenue
Q1 17 - 5.37M Macs, $7.24B Revenue
Q1 18 - 5.11M Macs, $6.90B Revenue

Looks to me like a stagnation in numbers while upholding the gross margin corrected for inflation.
Imho this is not too bad considering what other PC makers are doing, but it's not really a great result either. I'd wish for a bit more ambition in the Mac space, they're just "taking it (too ?) easy". Just my 2c.
 
Apple have enough cash in the bank to give every single person in the whole world $37 each.

Let that sink in for a minute...
 
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Mac is down 5% YOY and iPhone/iPad are basically flat. Wall Street cares more about YOY growth than revenue increases.

As I posted above, revenues are way up despite flat sales. Which means devices sold are higher priced. I doubt they sold a ton of iMac Pros so we’re left with the iPhone X.

I don’t care what Wall Street says. Bunch of liars and crooks manipulating stocks for their own benefit.
 
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What are you on about? It's been pretty much a 100% consensus this would be a record breaking quarter since Apple's last reporting. Who do you think was wrong?
He just hates the current product lineup and probably wants everyone else to follow suit, ignoring the fact that the numbers tell a different story.
 
What do these Mac numbers show us? A stagnation, greed, or both?

Q1 12 - 5.20M Macs, $6.60B Revenue
Q1 13 - 4.06M Macs, $5.52B Revenue
Q1 14 - 4.84M Macs, $6.34B Revenue
Q1 15 - 5.52M Macs, $6.94B Revenue
Q1 16 - 5.31M Macs, $6.75B Revenue
Q1 17 - 5.37M Macs, $7.24B Revenue
Q1 18 - 5.11M Macs, $6.90B Revenue
It shows stagnation since they sell twice as many iPads (unit for unit) than macs.
 
Which is why the iPhone X is so expensive. They knew iPhone unit sales might be less so charge way more so no lost revenue.

or a ton of people bought 8+ models which started at $799 each

"Apple's average selling price for iPhone was $796, up from $695 in year-ago quarter."
 
How is this even possible?

On the iPhone X:
  • It's way too expensive at $1,000. Nobody will pay that much.
  • FaceID is useless, bring back TouchID.
  • That notch. Not only ugly but interferes with all my content and videos.
  • Glass back? I don't want a fragile phone.
On the iPhone 8:
  • Not enough of an upgrade from the iPhone 7.
  • They still kept the same basic design? Lame.
On Macs:
  • Still no Mac Mini updates? People are waiting.
  • iMac Pro? I can build a machine for 1/2 the price that's 3x as fast.
  • Still only 16GB on the MBP? I require 32GB to be productive.

So my question for all the naysayers and analysts is this. How does it feel to be wrong? Not just wrong, but utterly and spectacularly wrong?
Agree. X naysayers were totally wrong and it was ironically the X that saved the quarter. 77.3M is not a great number (I certainly expected 80M+). However, ASP was almost $800, so it appears the iPhone X actually saved them. The X must have been a huge part of the mix and the iPhone 8 disappointed.

iPhone revenue was a record at $61.5B versus $54.3B last year.

iPhone X was DEFINITELY a savior here. iPhone 8 is truly the disappointment. I am actually not happy with the 77.3M iPhones and I blame it almost entirely on the too boring iPhone 8.
 
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$88 billion is more than their guidance of $84-87. All they missed are inflated expectations of analysts who are only trying to manipulate stock by setting an unrealistic target Apple is supposed to meet.
you could say the same with the guidance numbers...given by management who want to look good.
The estimates were based on last year's performance.
also, read my edit to my original reply.
 
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