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Forgive my ignorance, but isn't a digital transaction, like Bitcoin, like the easiest thing in the world to figure out where the money went?

"I want $1,000,000 on an unmarked Visa Gift card," said the robber
"But, you have to have the Visa number on the gift card."

Maybe I'm missing something...


"Blockchain technology was popularized by bitcoin, which uses blockchain techniques to formulate an anonymous digital currency. Due to the permissionless nature of the bitcoin — anyone can join the network without credentials — the blockchain holds no true user identities."
 
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call me stupid but this is the first time I've heard of this 2FA thing, where do you go to activate it unless mines already activated by default

for the record i dont have an iCloud email but do use it for phone restoring
 
Well, they'd better have it under control. Pretty sure one of the dreams born in that Los Altos garage in the late 70s wasn't to enable Turkish gangsters to appropriate credit cards, tax returns and skin pics of 600 million customers.:eek:

And was anyone else thinking of Dr. Evil when they read the ransom demand was only $150,000? I mean yes, it's Bitcoin, but go big or go home right?
 
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I had to do it one time on my 3rd gen Apple TV and never again. And it gets unplugged and sits idle for long periods. I plugged it back in last night to watch something on Netflix in the kitchen, and I didn't have to log back in.

And you should be able to use the remote app on your phone to type.


I agree; I did it yesterday for my five devices, and it was pretty simple. So far I've only had to do it one time per device per account. It seems it was only using the 2FA to authorize the device, not the specific session. That's the right level of security for me.
 
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2fa is clutch on the net now.

That being said they might have logins to accounts where people use the same username and password all over the place. The same can be said for google or hotmail. Segment your passwords at the minimum. This slows down the burn if you get caught in one of these scrapes from an insecure web resources.

I segment banks. Email social. Purchases
 
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Well, I guess we find out around April 7th. I think the majority of internet users do recycle their passwords - so this is actually a bit of a PR danger for Apple (although not Apple's fault...its the bloody users).

Probably a good time to reach out to family members / friends and make sure their passwords for their Apple ID is not recycled from other websites at the minimum (gotta check the wife's). If they can be bothered have them make sure they give nonsense answers (unique to the Apple site) for the backup questions and write those down for future use. Two factor after that.
 
The whole idea of 1Password is that it remembers them for you. And your central 1Password database has end-to-end AES-256 encryption and PBKDF2 key derivation. I haven't heard of anyone opening one of those, which news would I guess be massive. I've memorised a 25-character random string for my master password which I never type anywhere - it's meatware. I feel that should be sufficient, though I'm always vigilant - paranoid, even - about social engineering threats.
my passwords are huge and random.... 30+ characters generated by password tools, all different for every account. I don't know any of them personally. you can enable icloud keychain or use a well integrated app like 1password.
And when you are somewhere where you don't have your devices and you need to login to do something?
 
The people behind this kind of thing need to be set on fire, it's just evil behavior, whether or not they actually have the details they purport to have. I'm going to venture a guess that this, indeed, isn't a hack of Apple itself, and do simply have some password-reuse email/password combinations from other sites.

Time to turn on 2FA, if you haven't already, and never use the same password in more than one place - get a good password manager (I like 1Password) and use it to keep long random passwords that are separate for every site.
Another good password manager is KeePassX. It is available on Apple, Windows, Android, and Linux devices. Definitely use 2FA.
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Exactly - 2 factor is key here and everyone should be using it these days. Makes these idiot "hackers" impotent to do anything at all.
Unfortunately, that isn't exactly the case. It just means they can only access your iCloud account if they have access to one of your registered devices (to which the 6 digit confirmation code is delivered). If you lose a device you should immediately try to wipe it via "Where's My iPhone".
 
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Apple definitely needs to fix the annoying "Sign in to your iCloud account" pop ups that seem to appear at random regardless of what you happen to be doing at the moment.

These end up numbing users vigilance and would make it easy for an app to exploit to collect passwords by presenting a fake dialog box.
 
Same here.

Always tells me it's been accessed from London (when I'm using 2FA) even though I'm in the middle of the UK.

Guys I don't think it's /Apple's/ geolocation. They (just like anyone) locate the IP from which the request is coming, which itself is an imprecise science. It's not unusual for IP geolocation to be relatively inaccurate.
 
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Apple's 2FA seems really temperamental, not sending codes -- or to devices that are offline. The maps feature is cool, but as others have noted often really inaccurate and only useful for its timing. And let's hope you don't have any old devices in your account because Apple will be certain to send your code to that device over and over and over. Makes it sort of hard to delete the device...

And it gets really fun when you have a device which suffers a catastrophic failure. Don't lose your recovery key, kids.

And while iCloud Keychain sync is in theory a good solution for password management, syncing is incredibly slow.
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Guys I don't think it's /Apple's/ geolocation. They (just like anyone) locate the IP from which the request is coming, which itself is an imprecise science. It's not unusual for IP geolocation to be relatively inaccurate.
Respectfully disagree. It's their geolocation which isn't just relatively inaccurate. It's often wildly so.

Next time it happens, test it yourself with other online IP mappers.
 
And none of them were remotely a problem. Also, imagine you running a company and someone goes around threatening you to fork over cash and there are news articles claiming that your system got hacked. How would you respond to this when you know your database was in fact, not hacked, but a result of people using the same combination of username and passwords? Where would you point your finger then?

And I don't see how you could think I took that comment personally.
None of them were a problem?! Then why did they offer free bumper cases? How about replacing bent phones? Have you ever tried to sign up to a website and gotten the messege "that user name has already been taken, please choose another"? It's impossible to create multiple iCloud accounts with the same email address. Go ahead, try it. The point is, Apple is known for never admitting fault. The first comment was sarcasm, I agree with it and found it to be funny.
 
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How would you respond to this when you know your database was in fact, not hacked, but a result of people using the same combination of username and passwords?

I would assume that Apple is on the cutting edge with regards to intrusion detection. At the same time though, I would assume that any hacker worth anything can get in and get out without anyone knowing they were there. Yes, most of them are probably 'hacks' (forgive me) and will leave a trail of some kind. But how often do we hear about breaches where the company doesn't realize until some time much later that they were even hacked?

I agree that this is likely a case of re-use of id's and passwords. But I also don't necessarily feel 100% comfortable just because a company tells me they weren't hacked. I trust Apple security a bit more than most, but they surely aren't perfect.
 
When they introduced 2FA I turned in on and it caused my 3rd gen Apple TV to become almost unusable. Having to enter your password, then a symbol, then the 2FA code, all in the space of a few seconds with that awful remote typing, every single time you switched the ATV on. If they've fixed that, I'll happily turn it back on.

I ran into the same situation and eventually turned it off because it was so much trouble. But will gladly try it again.
 
Typical Apple. Blame others first then admit to fault later, if ever.

Apple is required by law to report security breaches. If they are lying there will be severe legal ramifications and fines, a lot more than the iTunes Gift cards demanded by the ‘hackers’.
 
Interesting. I got an automated call today saying my Apple ID was compromised blah blah blah, I hung up the phone because it sounded bogus and I'm sure it was. I currently do not have 2 password authentication enabled and I don't think my account will be hacked simply for the fact that I do not log into my iCloud on public computers but only on my personal devices. Only I know my ID, it is not shared with anyone else. The last reason is my Apple ID is unique and is 18 characters long compared to my other account passwords, it isn't used anywhere else but for my Apple ID.

It's odd that you go through the trouble of securing your ID, but don't have 2FA turned on.
 
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Another good password manager is KeePassX. It is available on Apple, Windows, Android, and Linux devices. Definitely use 2FA.
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Unfortunately, that isn't exactly the case. It just means they can only access your iCloud account if they have access to one of your registered devices (to which the 6 digit confirmation code is delivered). If you lose a device you should immediately try to wipe it via "Where's My iPhone".

I don't think you can get the code unless the device is unlocked.
 
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