The vast majority of people dying are people with pre-existing medical conditions or the elderly. It seems even children are surviving. Perhaps panicking less would be called for in this situation.
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Apple Restricts Employee Travel to South Korea and Italy, Two Countries Hit Hard by Coronavirus
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Who said anything about age? Do you think tech employees in these high tech sweatshops don't have parents and neighbors? Perhaps a more mature appreciation for epidemiology would be called for in this situation.
I said something about age, that's who. If these tech employees have elderly relatives or neighbors, I'd suggest they get tested as soon as possible when returning, just to be sure they don't infect their loved ones.
Cool heads always win.
FYI Apples own execs have warned in the past on reliance of china thru the supply chain
www.yahoo.com
Apple's Own Executives Warned About Relying on China Years Before Coronavirus
All the way in 2015.
While pre-existing conditions are a major risk factor, perfectly healthy adults die as well, just like the flu. Just like the flu, thinking that you are healthy doesn't mean you don't need to be concerned.
Much easier for a software company than a hardware company. Code is easy to transfer — prototypes and specialized equipment not so much.
That's a pity: here in Rome restoration and constructions in the building that will host the new Apple Store in the heart of city center (Via del Corso, next to Zara mega-store) are well under way. I am sure some Apple employees in charge of retail and architecture would need to check in frequently to supervise works in progress.
Considering they pictured a 737 Max I am pretty certain nobody is going to take that flight.
You can't just get tested. There are very few test kits so they have to use them sparingly. They are only testing people exhibiting symtoms and in few clinical settings like hospitals. And by then this person likely was in contact by many other people. Part of the problem this is a "novel" virus, so it has not been seen in humans before and research on it is is in early phases.
Wow, Apple only has ONE store in South Korea? That's kind of shocking for a country with over 50 million people. All South Koreans buy (mostly) only Samsung phones?
Given that it is readily contagious, and, at *best* you have maybe a 1 out of 100 chance of dying if you get it, perhaps more panic would be called for.
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That’s the main airline that is available to them in SFO, so...
Diseases don't roll dice. Most of the deaths were people with underlying medical conditions or the elderly. People without either of those issues are highly unlikely to die from this, far beyond the odds you're quoting. Personally, I feel safe. I am concerned for a few people I know, however. Around them, I'll have to be more careful, but that's about all one can do in this situation.
They are far more likely to die from the flu. That’s just reality. That could change, but the 300 cases in the US are not anything to worry about at this point.
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They are mostly losing money because of the overreaction. Unfortunately, this is a vicious cycle. Currently, it’s not a large problem in the US. The media is not helping by tracking every case and saying deaths “surged” when 2 more people die.
But guess why they are doing that? They are preying on the people that are glued to the virus updates. It’s all about ratings.
Meanwhile, the flu and pneumonia are killing way more people and no one cares.
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“disease don’t roll dice?” What a pointless and stupid thing to say.
Pick whatever lethality ratio you want. The disease is 2-3x more contagious than a typical flu. There is no vaccine. If we don’t quarantine, cancel events, etc., it will therefore infect many more people than a typical flu. And the number of deaths will be much higher as well.
It was not stupid, in fact, I could throw that right back at you for your inability to understand what I said, but I choose not to. The point is that the lethality rate is not the chance for an individual to die, it's the chance that any any randomly chosen person has to die. A specific individual in excellent health, does not have the same chance of death as one who is not. You're using the numbers incorrectly, and are clearly in a panicked state.
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I know exactly what lethality rate is, which is why I said pick whatever rate you want. Because you are ignoring R0. And R0 for CV19 is on par with the Spanish flu of 1918, or 2-3 times the typical flu year.
So I will say again what I said before: (1) no vaccine. (2) pretend we DON’T cancel events (3) pretend we DON’T quarantine (since you seem to object to cancelling events and quarantining).
The result is, because R0 is so much higher, and because, unlike the flu, there is no vaccine, that the number of people who will get CV19 is EXPONENTIALLY higher than the number of people who get the flu in a given year. That is simply math. It’s not controversial. It cannot be disputed. That’s the INEVITABLE result of an R0 near 3, when there is no vaccine.
So now, in a given state, instead of 1 million people catching it, like the flu, you have 10 million catching CV19.
In a given country, instead of 20 million people catching it, you have 150 million people catching it.
So let’s go back to lethality rate. Think of how many people die from the flu. Are you really trying to assert the nonsensical theory that if 10x or 20x more people catch CV19, that will result in FEWER deaths than are caused by the flu? And if that’s what you want people to believe, what is The real reason?
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