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'That are now acting up'. If you are trying to be funny to score some brownie points at least watch your grammar. Samdung...... Very, very drole.

I am a Stock Trader and I do not need your grammar class. I make more money without knowing that damn grammar :p
yes Samdung!!!
 
It will get thrown out. Employee is not required to bring personal property to the store. Factories have been doing this for decades at their gates.

It might get tossed, but not for the reason you state. Retail stores are different than factories. Further, people bring lunches, purses, etc.
 
grow up. you have a job. a good job. stop whining.

What are you smoking saying it is a good job because I want some.

Sorry retail sucks.
Although the company did not require the employee to bring in a bag to work.

I am not a fan of companies milking the clock on employees, but see it from their side as well.


Simple solution for Apple ban bags. If they want to check my bag they need to pay me for the time. It is on their dime. Retail employees across the board are treated like crap. Do not expect me to have a shred of sympathy for the companies employee them over this one.

It is if you want to check my bag, fine but you are paying me for the time I have to wait.
 
Yeah but you boot up your computer while you are already on your shift, you don't have to get 20 minutes earlier to ensure the computer is booted up by the time your shift starts.

I don't think you understand what he said. He doesn't get paid for the time he is waiting to boot the computer up.

My wife has this same thing at her work. Say she gets to work at 7:30, but it takes the computer 10 minutes to boot up and get her in to where she clocks in, she shows starting at 7:40. She does not get paid for the time waiting to boot the system. I believe that is what he means.
 
My Paid hours are 9-5:30 Monday-Friday.
My actual hours are 7:45-6:45 Monday-Friday.
There is supposed to be an hour's lunch in there somewhere, but rarely is.
Oh and then I do work in the evening and at weekends remotely!
 
There might be precedent cases but your example isn't one of them. This case is more analogous to where someone sues the company for back pay because there was a traffic jam getting out of the company parking lot. Also, anyone know how often this is/was a problem where it seriously slowed people down?

It is not analogous to a traffic jam at all. According to the suit, Apple forces people to undergo a security check everytime an employee exits the store whether it be to leave for the day or for a break. If an employee has to wait for a manager after he or she has punched out, that could take significant time every day.
 
Totally agree with this, I hate this behaviour, if it's a corporate policy and in your contract and you are required to participate in the duty, then you get paid for it.
The company is saving say 15 mins a day wages which is 1 hour 15 mins per Apple store employee per week, that's a hell of a lot of pay being lost. It works out to around 65 hours of unpaid work a year if you ignore holiday, per employee.
Wouldn't YOU be annoyed if you were forced to lose out on 65 hours of pay every year?
 
The suit seeks an unspecified amount of damages
Damages?? DAMAGES?!

Know the difference between a catfish and a lawyer?
One's a scum-sucking botom-dweller, and the other is a fish.

Disclaimer: Jordan Golson is a former Apple Retail employee and is potentially part of the class.
So why would MacRumors give him this write up? Forget blather about integrity. Real journalism avoids even the appearance of impropriety.
 
Yeah, but you were ALREADY clocked in while your employer's computers were taking soooo long to boot up. You were getting paid while you waited for your computer to boot up.

As an hourly employee, every minute counts.

I worked for Apple Retail for 3 years...$8.25/hr. 15 minutes = $2.0625. That's $2.0625 every single time, every single shift.

When I was a teenager, that wasn't small potatoes. That added up!

Didnt he say he cant start the clock until the computer is online? So hes not getting paid for that bootup time.
 
Watch for other highly regulated and highly taxed U.S. states to follow suit. Class Action = Millions for attorneys small change for Apple employees. Change in the current search policy is taking place as we speak. Searches will take place on the clock or not at all. A victory for the small guy? Or a bonanza for the attorneys? Both you say? Hmmm.
 
Glass houses and all that....

Granted, Apple gets more press time over its lawsuits than most companies...but litigation in the US over one's lack of personal responsibility has run rampant. So much so that when I asked someone on a trip what they thought of Americans they summarized "they eat too much, and they sue too much", and that was 8 years ago.

As another poster mentioned...don't want to be inconvenienced by a bag check? How 'bout leaving your bag at home? In the car? No...calling a lawyer isn't the next logical step.

How about corporate responsibility? Don't want to get sued because you force employees to do things off the clock? Let them do those things on the clock.
And yea, one of the reasons I like apple is because they generally seem like a responsible corporation. Hopefully they'll add this to their list and you can stop projecting whatever misguided ideas about "responsibility"
 
Yeah but you boot up your computer while you are already on your shift, you don't have to get 20 minutes earlier to ensure the computer is booted up by the time your shift starts.

Yeah, but you were ALREADY clocked in while your employer's computers were taking soooo long to boot up. You were getting paid while you waited for your computer to boot up.

I've highlighted the portion you chose to not read.

My employer's computers take soooo long to boot up. And I am forced to wait for them to load before I can clock in. Time to sue for 10 years of backpay.
 
Great way secure your place on the unemployable list. Who'd want to employ a clock-watching, troublemaker?

Admittedly, policies should ensure checks are done "on the clock".

How dare these people expect to be paid for their time at work.
 
Glass houses and all that....

Granted, Apple gets more press time over its lawsuits than most companies...but litigation in the US over one's lack of personal responsibility has run rampant. So much so that when I asked someone on a trip what they thought of Americans they summarized "they eat too much, and they sue too much", and that was 8 years ago.

As another poster mentioned...don't want to be inconvenienced by a bag check? How 'bout leaving your bag at home? In the car? No...calling a lawyer isn't the next logical step.

I hate all the typical US class action bandwagon, i'm European and i just think 90% of times is borderline to total madness.

But this time it does make sense. They are right.
Apple, as every company, does count the single percentage points it can gain or lose by increasing or decreasing working hours, and it pays people down to the single minute they make, rightfully so. The same level of attention is to be expected the other way around.

The only thing that makes me mad is that the single employee will get something like a hundred dollars max, while the lawyers will get millions, but what can i tell you...this looks like one of the very few cases in which a class action is exactly what's needed to punish a company for its wrongdoing.

Apple market itself as the best in class, so there's no forgiveness on them by anyone. It's the price of being number one: you get the good press, and the bad one.
 
It will get thrown out. Employee is not required to bring personal property to the store. Factories have been doing this for decades at their gates.

Apple should just make employees bringing their own lunches against policy. Then they can start employee cafeterias, but the food can only be purchased with Apple credits.
 
Apple has deep pockets, looks like these employees are trying to cash in. If they don't like it they should work someplace else. They wouldn't be doing these checks if thefts weren't a problem. There are far worse jobs than the Apple store, one of the few retail locations I'd actually want to work if I had no other options, because I like using the products.
 
As far as I know, Best Buy does (or did) this as well. All the employees leaving after close (like 10 or 11PM) had to line up and have backpacks, lunchbags, handbags, purses checked. Most guys simply didn't bother with bags for closing shifts, so you could skip the line.

The problem though is that it's not just "bag checks", you are issued a tech card that carries the make and serial number of any Apple branded technology you bring into work. This includes iPhones, iPads, iPods, Macs, etc. Having to wait ten minutes after clocking out, on an always busy sales floor, people bumping into you, etc just so a manager can glance at your phone & card (rarely actually checking the numbers) to allow you to leave gets to be frustrating as hell after a while. Honestly at the end of the night it was rarely a problem since the managers were MUCH less occupied with pressing issues, i.e. customers.


So who checks the managers bag?

Other managers if there were two at the end of a shift or one of the last employees leaving as the manager locks up. Almost always performed outside the glass doors to ensure no theft.
 
Other retail employers have had Loss Prevention issues. Some have gone to the point of only allowing employees to use clear zippered bags.

The other option is to not bring bags into work.

I think they have a case if the employee handbook doesn't state the policy. If it does, they chose to work there, and knew what they were being subject to.

When I was in high school I worked retail for a short time at an amusement park (later went to a mom and pop hardware store, no bag searches, no issues.). We were required to have only clear bags, and any amount of money over $20 would be confiscated from us. So I just didn't carry cash and if I needed something, I took a ziploc bag. Ladies bought clear purses.

Moving away from a big corporation and onto a smaller firm (for more money) was awesome though. No more being treated like employee xxxxx, but rather being treated like a person! We're talking high school and near minimum wage anyway so why put up with it? Go find some smaller local place to work that retail job.
 
Same deal when I worked at the Virgin Megastore. Clock out, have security check your bag at the door, go to lunch, come back.

Really not sure how this could be rectified. Time clocks by the door or on an iPhone located with the security guard?
 
I worked for Apple Retail for 3 years...$8.25/hr. 15 minutes = $2.0625. That's $2.0625 every single time, every single shift.

When I was a teenager, that wasn't small potatoes. That added up!

You worked for the Apple Retail store, and you had to wait 15 minutes per shift , every single shift, for bag check after clocking out? That's just BS.

I worked at two different Apple Retail stores (2006-2008), and at both stores, I was only occasionally asked to show the content of my bags, mostly at the end of the day. I don't remember ever being asked to open my bags during lunch breaks. And I never had to wait more than 1 minute between clocking out and leaving the store.

Often times when I worked the last shift, the managers would even let us clock out after checking our bags.
 
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