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Considering they are probably internal assets, its probably much cheaper than that. Not to mention that DVD production is not a Zero Cost venture.

exactly, plus having spent the $m on mac pros, they only need to do it once then for future releases of OS X, they will have the systems in place. It's an investment.
 
Not a bad idea if this rumour is a reality. However them with iMacs and Mac Pro's are pretty screwed. The ability just to burn the install to a DVD at a store would be preferred.

The 4GB download is the only thing stopping me from upgrading. My internet simply will not be able to take it.

Yeah, with my blazing 756K connection, by the time I finish downloading 10.7, 10.8 would be available.:p:D

Conversation at Apple, "So rather than distrubute Lion on DVD we are going to spend $3 million on over 300 maxed out Mac Pros.":confused:

Take out the ridiculous profit :apple: is making on a maxed out Mac Pro, it'll only be $2 million.;) I agree that DVD is still the way to go. They can keep the cost of distribution down by using minimal packaging. :apple: would be :apple: if they didn't package their stuff in a museum piece.:rolleyes:
 
In my opinion, this is a meagre solution for a problem that we should not have in the first place. Just offer copies on DVDs and let customers decide what works out for them. They should be encouraged to buy Lion via the App Store, not forced.

Absolutely agree with this. I want a physical disc to store and have handy when things go south.

I can't wait to see how many people are crying in their beers because the download took forever or it spanked out in the middle of it and now they're sitting around with a computer that doesn't work.

I don't care how big Apple's server farms are, I think they'll choke when everyone tries to download at once. And if the farms don't choke, the outside network of ISP's will.

As for going to the apple Store to get the upgrade? Right. Take a real book with you to read while you wait in line.

I think it's a little early to be doing it this way.
 
I do think it is funny for Apples solution for slow internet is to come in to a store and download it there. Odds are if you have an Apple store near by you would also have dozens of WiFi hot spots. Motels, restaurants, truck stops, libraries ect.....

Odds are if you have an Apple computer you also have a ipod, ipad, or iphone. If your internet is slow find a wifi hot spot or a neighbor with faster unsecured wireless and download it to one of your portables.
 
I do think it is funny for Apples solution for slow internet is to come in to a store and download it there. Odds are if you have an Apple store near by you would also have dozens of WiFi hot spots. Motels, restaurants, truck stops, libraries ect.....

Odds are if you have an Apple computer you also have a ipod, ipad, or iphone. If your internet is slow find a wifi hot spot or a neighbor with faster unsecured wireless and download it to one of your portables.

This is an interesting observation. One that makes real sense.
 
I have question on this download thing: Are we going to be downloading something that WE can create a disc from and then perform an update, or will the upgrade take place as the download happens?

I we can create our own disc I wouldn't be so opposed to the idea.
 
I hope everyone with terrible internet has resume feature, so on day 2 after they loose connection the can resume instead of start over. I have had that happen once or twice before we got broadband.


I truly believe Apples decision to go download only is because of the Hackintosh community. It is a bit tricky to get OSX to run on Sandy Bridge processors the new macs have, since there is no support for them until 10.6.7 and 10.6.8. With 10.6.8 it is simple to get native support on non Apple labled hardware. Rumors in the hack community say it is simpler then ever to get Lion installed via a custom made disk. Its going to be harder to sell over priced hardware with Mac getting more and more PC compatibility. Macs are pretty, but pretty don't get the work done.

Burn to disc: http://osxdaily.com/2011/06/08/create-burn-bootable-mac-os-x-lion-install-disc/
 
I hope everyone with terrible internet has resume feature, so on day 2 after they loose connection the can resume instead of start over. I have had that happen once or twice before we got broadband.


I truly believe Apples decision to go download only is because of the Hackintosh community. It is a bit tricky to get OSX to run on Sandy Bridge processors the new macs have, since there is no support for them until 10.6.7 and 10.6.8. With 10.6.8 it is simple to get native support on non Apple labled hardware. Rumors in the hack community say it is simpler then ever to get Lion installed via a custom made disk. Its going to be harder to sell over priced hardware with Mac getting more and more PC compatibility. Macs are pretty, but pretty don't get the work done.

Burn to disc: http://osxdaily.com/2011/06/08/create-burn-bootable-mac-os-x-lion-install-disc/

Not overpriced. I still don't see any Windows-based PCs that have the same hardware as my 13" 2011 MacBook Pro and be cheaper. I do see many notebooks that offer less hardware and cost more than my MacBook Pro however.
 
I am so confused, why on Earth would anyone walk into an Apple store to buy Lion?

Some narcissistic need to talk to a salesperson?

Here is a novel idea, when Lion is released, fire up the app store on your Mac and download it.

It may be the lonely option, but it works the best in my eyes.

;)
 
I am so confused, why on Earth would anyone walk into an Apple store to buy Lion?

Some narcissistic need to talk to a salesperson?

Here is a novel idea, when Lion is released, fire up the app store on your Mac and download it.

It may be the lonely option, but it works the best in my eyes.

;)

Reading through the thread, the problem seems to be many people have slow and/or capped internet connections.
 
I'll bet you a buck Apple offers slightly higher priced DVD's. I further suspect they will wait for 10.7.1 to address at least one layer of bug fixes before they add physical distribution to the mix. I feel based on public feedback to date some users actually "need" physical distribution and I suspect Apple knows that and wants to wait until a known good master exists for that.

Rocketman

The exact same "need" was said about the removal of the floppy drive from the original iMac.
 
The exact same "need" was said about the removal of the floppy drive from the original iMac.

No this is different. The floppy was supplanted by the CD. It was still a physical item.

Let's say someones computer is completely down and they don't have a bootable start-up disc. How are they going to get the unit up and running?

Hauling it to an Apple store is not an option for everyone (luckily for me it is) and Apple stores aren't open 24/7.
 
I have question on this download thing: Are we going to be downloading something that WE can create a disc from and then perform an update, or will the upgrade take place as the download happens?

I we can create our own disc I wouldn't be so opposed to the idea.

I'd imagine that you'd be able to save the download to disc or a thumb drive. How else would you be able to bring it to your Mac at home? :)

I may end up doing this instead of dling it at home on my crappy 1.5Mbps connection.
 
I'd imagine that you'd be able to save the download to disc or a thumb drive. How else would you be able to bring it to your Mac at home? :)

I may end up doing this instead of dling it at home on my crappy 1.5Mbps connection.
Duh! I didn't think of that:eek:. Figured you would bring your unit to the store.
 
Not overpriced. I still don't see any Windows-based PCs that have the same hardware as my 13" 2011 MacBook Pro and be cheaper. I do see many notebooks that offer less hardware and cost more than my MacBook Pro however.

You must not know where to look.

First of all the 13" are the low end macbooks. Nothing impressive. I like to call them budget books.

Similar to you 2011 macbook if you have i5 version http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220988
Better then your Macbook if you have i7 version: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152252
 
Just got a new migration assistant download via updates, to help transfer files to lion :)
 
I plan on just walking into my Apple Store sometime on Thursday/Friday to use their connection to download Lion. I don't think they would mind.
 
I'm all for digital content, but I still wished they made lion dvds or even lion usb disks. Call me old-fashion, but for OS's I prefer physical media.
 
Ouch, just saw it was 6gigs!
I'm going to hate downloading that also.
 
Nice idea, but those who have little/no access to broadband are probably in the boonies or other countries where there's no Apple Store anywhere in reasonable distance. I have friends in countries with no Apple presence at all and broadband is under 1MB/s if it's there at all. Is Lion not an option for them?

Also, he fact that you can't pause/resume downloads in the app store is a pretty big deal, especially for huge multi gigabyte apps like this. I have been trying to download XCode on my work network (although I don't need it for work, and I'm only one of a handful of Macs on it) and although our connection is very fast, they seem to have software in place that stops a connection after it's downloaded over a gigabyte in 5 minutes or so, making it basically impossible to ever download xcode since it makes you start over after an interrupted connection.
 
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