Rogan's an idiot. The examples I gave are just some. I don't listen to him so I can't speak about many others. However, he's so blatanly stupid you don't have to be a genius to know this.
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I suspect YouTube is crushing the podcast apps. Most major podcasts have a version on YouTube nowadays.
News I’ve seen says that YouTube is number one, by quite a margin, and Spotify is number two.
Apple hasn’t done jack squat with the podcast app in years, so it’s no surprise.
For most podcasts I would still prefer going to a podcast app. You can actually do more things listening to a show rather then watching a show.
This. YouTube might be great if you’re sitting at home, or at a desk, but it’s useless if you’re walking, driving, cooking, cleaning or exercising. I listen to podcast when I’m doing other things, and usually on the move. And I also think it’s a very good thing for content to not always be screen-based. I don’t need a screen to listen, but YouTube still puts the screen front-and-centre.
I can go either way on this. Some shows, depending on the guest or if there are visual aids associated with an episode, are really a lot better in a video format.
They are. Most shows I listen to though don't need visual aid and I can do other things. Don't need to be tied to a screen.
A lot of people listen to audio podcasts on youtube. it just shows a still image, and if you have youtube premium, you can minimize the app.
For example: https://www.youtube.com/@atpfm
I use Spotify.
That's true though you don't need to watch the video. The YouTube-ification of podcasts has resulted in shows increasingly running video clips. This doesn't translate well to audio versions. Live streaming on YouTube is another competitive advantage as fans get the podcast there hours before it shows up in a podcast app. This puts more distance between YouTube and podcast apps. Apple could go big with video (recorded and streaming) in its News, Podcasts, and Stocks apps but it seems focused only on Apple TV for its video ambitions.