arn said:
Check out the resolution. It looks to be pretty old. Computer displays haven't used 640 x 480 in a while. Handhelds are only beginning to get resolutions like that, so you couldn't really say it is a common resolution for handhelds.
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Check out the resolution. It looks to be pretty old. Computer displays haven't used 640 x 480 in a while. Handhelds are only beginning to get resolutions like that, so you couldn't really say it is a common resolution for handhelds.
DGFan said:
I'm pretty sure that the time limit is on filing for the patent, not obtaining it; otherwise, there would be a lot more technology in the public domain.
sinisterdesign said:
"now what do i do w/ all my menus?"
You get one of the smaller, (17" maybe) cheaper, (much now) discontinued displays for your palettes and live large.
I'm one of those weird photographers that shoot more verticals than horizontals (cause I do mosty people) so this is something I've ranted about for years- And to eliminate scrolling on web pages (I'm thinking 23" at least )......priceless.j
otter-boy said:
Yes. That's what I meant when I said "you have one year from the date of first sale to apply for a patent".
However, almost all patents are published at 18 months. And, even without publishing, most patents are received within 3-4 years of filing. So anything on sale earlier than 4-5 years ago is probably not going to be patented if it hasn't already been.
Maxx Power said:
wow, those really ARE gorgeous displays. i love my 22" Cinema, but that aluminum frame would look really sweet on my brushed aluminum-topped desk.
Apple always raises the bar w/ their design (Ive was one of the best aquisitions they ever made), but companies catch on & catch up. it takes them a while, but there are some beautiful CPUs & monitors on the market now. i'm anxious to see how Apple can raise the bar over something as sleek & well designed as these eyegonomic monitors...
They didn't
There is absolutley no way to jump from the patent description to what you infer. The need to maintain pixel correct information for picture integrity with different "screen" orientations is what this is about. Getting the information displayed accurately on a widescreen Mac to a handheld device and as a bonus, the type of rotational screen that Radius had while ensuring that geometry and information capabilities are maintained is at the heart of this. How Radius did it and what Apple have applied for are not the same thing- at least Apple would hope that's the case and I am sure their patent attorneys have done their homework on this to ensure there is no patent violation. It's hard to imagine that Apple is unaware of the Radius monitor.
wordmunger said:
There is absolutley no way to jump from the patent description to what you infer. The need to maintain pixel correct information for picture integrity with different "screen" orientations is what this is about. Getting the information displayed accurately on a widescreen Mac to a handheld device and as a bonus, the type of rotational screen that Radius had while ensuring that geometry and information capabilities are maintained is at the heart of this. How Radius did it and what Apple have applied for are not the same thing- at least Apple would hope that's the case and I am sure their patent attorneys have done their homework on this to ensure there is no patent violation. It's hard to imagine that Apple is unaware of the Radius monitor.
rjwill246 said:
Not only that, but if Apple is aware of it they have to bring it to the attention of the USPTO in an Information Disclosure Statement. If they do not the attorneys risk being barred from ever prosecuting another patent before the USPTO. No lawyer that I have ever met is willing to risk that.
This whole nonsense about unethical lawyers is based on bad NBC shows and the <1% of real lawyers you hear about in the news.
It's practically already there
Am I the only one who thinks that the iMac's look as though they _should_ be able to rotate? I've seen people walk up to it and try to rotate the screen...
How hard can it be to work that into the current design? Basically just have a groove/nipple to prevent the screen from being slightly off in either direction, then with a little effort it just slides out of the groove and rotate 90 degrees... but knowing apple, you'd b e able to spin it 360 degrees THAT WOULD BE COOL!
You just need rotating cuff connectors and *boom* spin all you like!
Am I the only one who thinks that the iMac's look as though they _should_ be able to rotate? I've seen people walk up to it and try to rotate the screen...
How hard can it be to work that into the current design? Basically just have a groove/nipple to prevent the screen from being slightly off in either direction, then with a little effort it just slides out of the groove and rotate 90 degrees... but knowing apple, you'd b e able to spin it 360 degrees THAT WOULD BE COOL!
You just need rotating cuff connectors and *boom* spin all you like!
adzoox said:
I drooled over that very display a few months ago and thought, That would be wicked in an iMac! (I have a 17" iMac.) However, based on my few minutes with it, the actual rotation mechanism is not perfect. Maybe Ive and the boys could work on it. (Doesn't Apple have a huge investment in Samsung's LCD division?) And I have to agree with the post above: the iMac screen does look like it can be rotated.
Squire
I loved them too....the eyegonomics look far better than the apple displays...but I called today and lo and behold they are not recommended for graphics/ video or color critical work. Damn.sinisterdesign said:
How can people rate this as positive? Not that it's negative....but so far is doesn't mean anything!
Anyways, a while back there was a company (I forget which) that came out with that laptop where the large screen folded in half, and swivled in together so they stacked making the laptop compact. Perhaps Apple is making something along this line.
Anyways, a while back there was a company (I forget which) that came out with that laptop where the large screen folded in half, and swivled in together so they stacked making the laptop compact. Perhaps Apple is making something along this line.
Good G*d!!!
Those displays are absolutely fabulous! If Apple doesn't get on the ball and contract Eyegonomic to design the next gen displays, I will strongly consider the Eyegonomic 24" display. It's beautiful!!!
sinisterdesign said:
Those displays are absolutely fabulous!
If Apple doesn't get on the ball and contract Eyegonomic to design the next gen displays, I will strongly consider the Eyegonomic 24" display. It's beautiful!!!
This would be great for Xcode, I've been thinking about that old Radium display when I use it. Generally you have everything in one window and no subpalettes that ened space on the side, and you want to see the maximum amount of vertical text (so you can see a whole function for example). I would love it if they brought this back. And figure out how to make it work on a PowerBook!sinisterdesign said:
portrait display
My god angryangel, you read my mind, i was about to ask if anyone remembered a portrait display apple did years ago. I remember seeing it on this guys Mac museum (which i intend to create myself one day) i never fiddled with it though, so i never knew if it rotated or not. very cool idea though, if you want to work in protrait.
doesnt LaCie do a tft monitor on an articulated arm, i believe that twists in all manner of directions too?
My god angryangel, you read my mind, i was about to ask if anyone remembered a portrait display apple did years ago. I remember seeing it on this guys Mac museum (which i intend to create myself one day
) i never fiddled with it though, so i never knew if it rotated or not. very cool idea though, if you want to work in protrait. doesnt LaCie do a tft monitor on an articulated arm, i believe that twists in all manner of directions too?
I remember when my old work first bought the Radius monitor -- I thought things couldn't get any more advanced than that. It felt too clunky though.
narco
narcofound it:
LaCie rotating monitor
looks damn ugly though!
sorry if somone posted it before, i was too lazy to read the entire thread
NB, like dobbin said, if this type of arm was implimented elegantly on an iMac, it would look amazing! It could finally have all the funtionality that those little iMacs had on the pixar produced ads (you see it twists slightly, in a way the iMac can't)
pixar ad 1
pixar ad 2
(also, if anyone knows what song that is on the adverts, id love to know!)
LaCie rotating monitor
looks damn ugly though!
sorry if somone posted it before, i was too lazy to read the entire thread
NB, like dobbin said, if this type of arm was implimented elegantly on an iMac, it would look amazing! It could finally have all the funtionality that those little iMacs had on the pixar produced ads (you see it twists slightly, in a way the iMac can't)
pixar ad 1
pixar ad 2
(also, if anyone knows what song that is on the adverts, id love to know!)
iZac said:My god angryangel, you read my mind, i was about to ask if anyone remembered a portrait display apple did years ago. I remember seeing it on this guys Mac museum (which i intend to create myself one day
doesnt LaCie do a tft monitor on an articulated arm, i believe that twists in all manner of directions too?
I have on my Mac IIsi
a portrait display (15", letter-size). In the day, it was great for looking at lots of music staffs together of a large group at once. However, I don't think it could be made to work in landscape mode like a Radius pivot, but maybe a software add-on did that in future models.
Return on the Newton? The Apple tablet? The vPod?arn said:
I'm intrigued about the line "computer operations including showing TV images", especially in light of the fact that this patent seems geared for handhelds. As far as I know, the Newton never had this functionality, so it COULD be suggesting a future product. Perhaps an iBook-iPod hybrid with a 640x480 color touch screen running on a G3 variant. Yes, I know I'm reading a lot into it.
Old News/New News
We had a Radius Pivot in our office many moons ago...probably circa 1990. Whatever Patent it had is probably about due to expire.
And for more modern rotations, I currently have a Palm T3 in my pocket with this feature.
In reading through Apple's patent application, what it appears to be saying is that there's more than one way to accomplish the rotating function, and a less computationally-intensive method would be a Good Thing(TM). As such, they're not proposing patenting the idea of a rotating screen, but simply one particular technique of doing so.
Be this all said, I was disappointed when the original LCD iMac came out and lacked the rotating screen feature, in the context that to Engineer the articulating arm to allow doing so is IMO a straightforward, technically low risk, task. And the most straightforward way of driving the screen is to simply have two video cards, one dedicated to each layout...given that a basic PC videocards retail for as little as $25, the cost for the feature really shouldn't be outrageous.
-hh
We had a Radius Pivot in our office many moons ago...probably circa 1990. Whatever Patent it had is probably about due to expire.
And for more modern rotations, I currently have a Palm T3 in my pocket with this feature.
In reading through Apple's patent application, what it appears to be saying is that there's more than one way to accomplish the rotating function, and a less computationally-intensive method would be a Good Thing(TM). As such, they're not proposing patenting the idea of a rotating screen, but simply one particular technique of doing so.
Be this all said, I was disappointed when the original LCD iMac came out and lacked the rotating screen feature, in the context that to Engineer the articulating arm to allow doing so is IMO a straightforward, technically low risk, task. And the most straightforward way of driving the screen is to simply have two video cards, one dedicated to each layout...given that a basic PC videocards retail for as little as $25, the cost for the feature really shouldn't be outrageous.
-hh
