Apple 'Safe Deposit Box' Patent Revealed Ahead of Mac OS X Lion

[Piggie]

Highly doubt Apple would let you store porn. Think of the negative publicity...

I can tell you one thing for 100% certainty.

If Apple ever EVER did ban/remove anyone's data on their cloud due to it's content it would instantly make the system untrustworthy as by doing that they are telling the world that they are scanning your private data.

 

[chris200x9]

seems like a cool idea, but how is this patentable? https://spideroak.com/ anyone? It's basically using encryption, I fail to see anything worthy of a patent.

 

[frunkis54]

I can tell you one thing for 100% certainty.

If Apple ever EVER did ban/remove anyone's data on their cloud due to it's content it would instantly make the system untrustworthy as by doing that they are telling the world that they are scanning your private data.

definatly.....

 

[Cynicalone]

I like the idea of backing up my iTunes library safely in the cloud but it is just not technically possible right now...

My iTunes library is 3.49TB right now. Imagine uploading that to the cloud.

 

[Mailia]

I like the idea of backing up my iTunes library safely in the cloud but it is just not technically possible right now...

My iTunes library is 3.49TB right now. Imagine uploading that to the cloud.

..what on Earth are you storing in your iTunes library?

 

[RalfTheDog]

..what on Earth are you storing in your iTunes library?

My iTunes library is about the same size. I have a few TV series saved in HD.

 

[rmwebs]

I like the idea of backing up my iTunes library safely in the cloud but it is just not technically possible right now...

My iTunes library is 3.49TB right now. Imagine uploading that to the cloud.

There's no way Apple will let even 1% of its customers to upload 3.49TB for free or a small fee. Its just not feasible. There's nothing in it for them as it would most certainly not be something easily recouped from extra sales.

 

[Jethryn Freyman]

Proper full disk encryption would be better. Apparently Stevie J. did email someone who asked about it, saying it was coming in Lion, I actually started a thread on that a while ago...
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=11628791

Please, Apple, add whole-disk encryption support in Lion. PGP sucks and TrueCrypt does not support whole-disk encryption yet on the Mac.

Care to explain why? Apart from the problems with the 10.6.5 upgrade, PGP has been very good to me.

 

[RalfTheDog]

Proper full disk encryption would be better. Apparently Stevie J. did email someone who asked about it, saying it was coming in Lion, I actually started a thread on that a while ago...
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=11628791


Care to explain why? Apart from the problems with the 10.6.5 upgrade, PGP has been very good to me.

PGP is great. The only thing I don't like about it is the need to decrypt your boot disk before you upgrade PGP. I like TruCrypt because it's files do not have headers and you can do triple layer encryption.

Over all, PGP is the best. I love the public key repository system.

 

[farmermac]

Snow Leopard already has a feature to safeguard files. You can create empty disk images and encrypt them to 256bit in disk utilities and store whatever you want in those.

 

[cmaier]

another patented Apple patent on junk that has already been developed and employed. Way to go that extra mile and be innovative, Apple.


Apple - "We used to be innovated until we focused our time on selling iStuff as there is more money to be made."

well in this case it has already been broke to the market very successfully. Ever hear of this little program called dropbox. It works really well and basically does the same thing.

This to me is another one of the useless patents that increases the number but would be thrown out if apple ever tried to sue with it.

It's not a patent. It's a patent application. Huge difference.

 

[frunkis54]

I like the idea of backing up my iTunes library safely in the cloud but it is just not technically possible right now...

My iTunes library is 3.49TB right now. Imagine uploading that to the cloud.

Wow and i thought i had alot at 1tb

 

[Mailia]

My iTunes library is about the same size. I have a few TV series saved in HD.

Well, yeah, I have TV shows saved too, but my Videos folder is still only 300 GB, with most of them in 720p and rest in SD.

Snow Leopard already has a feature to safeguard files. You can create empty disk images and encrypt them to 256bit in disk utilities and store whatever you want in those.

Am I the only one that finds this kinda gimmicky?

 

[RalfTheDog]

Something Apple could do that would be 10 times cooler. You can connect as many hard drives to an Airport Extreme as you want, however, the Airport extreme has no raid support.

I would love to be able to set up a slow 0+1 raid on my router and use it for backups. You could store vast tracts of data and remain safe as long as your house did not burn down.

 

[Westside guy]

If done right, this could be cool. But I don't know that it'll be done right. With software, there are sometimes compromises made for political reasons or expediency. If Apple thinks there'd be pressure from enough customers, they might feel it necessary to put in a back door to any encrypted cloud volume so their people could help recover data for those customers that forget their password.

What I'd like to see in Lion is a move towards more security. Make it the default for people to not run their day-to-day stuff using admin accounts, for example - that'd do a lot right there. An option for full disk encryption, as someone has already mentioned... that'd also be great - assuming, again, there are no back doors or failsafe secondary methods of access. Making your keychain password different than your login password by default, instead of requiring the user to figure out how to do it. Stuff like that.

 

[wschutz]

Wow... Dropbox (and services-alike)... patented...
Wow... what an innovation...

I can wait for the keynote where Apple will say pretend that this hasn't exited until that moment, and how Apple is providing humanity with such kind of inventions...

 

[rmwebs]

Am I the only one that finds this kinda gimmicky?

Nope - I think its also gimmicky. I've never had the desire or need to encrypt anything on any computer I've ever used and doubt 90% of Mac users do either.

Seems like its something they are doing to pad out the feature list of lion.

 

[RalfTheDog]

Well, yeah, I have TV shows saved too, but my Videos folder is still only 300 GB, with most of them in 720p and rest in SD.

How many complete series do you have saved? I tend to wait until a series is over, then I download the entire thing. There is a difference between saving a show, saving a season and saving a seven season series.

Nope - I think its also gimmicky. I've never had the desire or need to encrypt anything on any computer I've ever used and doubt 90% of Mac users do either.

Seems like its something they are doing to pad out the feature list of lion.

It is more for business users than people who play with their computers at home. People in some industries like people who deal with credit card data and bank robbers are required to encrypt all data. It is also a very good idea to encrypt your boot drive before you go to some countries. It is not uncommon to have someone put key logging software on your laptop when you have it locked in the hotel safe.

 

[3282868]

So, this is basically "Security" in OS X Preferences but for the "cloud"…

…um, where are the 10.7 Developer Beta's? Since I can remember, every 10.X had at least a year of bi-weekly beta's. If "Lion" is released this summer, it seems that Apple doesn't want anyone outside of Cupertino to know anything about it… other than "Mission Control" and possibly "Safe Deposit Box"… first, get "iDisk" working well, then consider other "features"...

…or maybe Apple is running on a different calendar…

My thoughts exactly. I'm scratching my head.

It's cutesy marketing. Apple has begun using non-technical terms for features that the mass public (i.e. Soccer Mums and teenagers) can understand and find "cute". "Time Machine", "Dashboard", "Magic Mouse" - soon it will be "Magic Cut Pro" and 11.1 "Magic Mouse" and 11.2 "Magic Mirror"...

 

[Mailia]

How many complete series do you have saved? I tend to wait until a series is over, then I download the entire thing. There is a difference between saving a show, saving a season and saving a seven season series.

I have some complete series, or complete at least to this point, for example, Seasons 1-6 of How I Met Your Mother. Quick survey shows about 700 files in the Videos directory.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

I like the idea of backing up my iTunes library safely in the cloud but it is just not technically possible right now...

My iTunes library is 3.49TB right now. Imagine uploading that to the cloud.

I always find it disturbing when I hear of a library of that size and really want to know how the hell you get it that big. My gut tells me is fair amount of pirated stuff.
I know my 30gig music library is not complete legal.

It's not a patent. It's a patent application. Huge difference.

While true does not change the fact that I still think it joke patent and even if granted (which our patent office loves to do) would still never hold up in court. I could easily see it thrown out for prier art or just logical that things like that go together. I think Apple knows it but just something to throw into a file if someone ever does try to sue them for it they can pull it out and say LOOK we have it already. A defense patent is all I see it as.

 

[QuarterSwede]

I always find it disturbing when I hear of a library of that size and really want to know how the hell you get it that big. My gut tells me is fair amount of pirated stuff.
I know my 30gig music library is not complete legal.

Honestly he could have a lot of TV shows and movies. They take up a lot of room especially when downloaded and not ripped and encoded with a great encoder (I find those Digital Versions on Blu-Ray combo's 2-3x the size they need to be). Also, people with insanely large legit libraries usually have the music as some sort of lossless files.

Myself, I have 15GB of purely legal stuff. However, I only have three movies and one season (30 shows) of TV so it's mostly music.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Honestly he could have a lot of TV shows and movies. They take up a lot of room especially when downloaded and not ripped and encoded with a great encoder (I find those Digital Versions on Blu-Ray combo's 2-3x the size they need to be).

Myself, I have 15GB of purely legal stuff. However, I only have three movies and one season (30 shows) of TV so it's mostly music.

I may of come across sounding wrong. It is not the fact that some of it may be pirated. I could care less about that part. But is the raw size of it and I always have to ask WHY even if it is all legal I still ask why.

Yes I do know that it can build up quickly. I filled up a 500gig hard drive with just TV shows. I just find it shocking that people hold on to that much stuff.
I though it was bad when I filled up my 500 gig and went on a deleting spree freeing up room.

 

[RalfTheDog]

I always find it disturbing when I hear of a library of that size and really want to know how the hell you get it that big. My gut tells me is fair amount of pirated stuff.
I know my 30gig music library is not complete legal.



While true does not change the fact that I still think it joke patent and even if granted (which our patent office loves to do) would still never hold up in court. I could easily see it thrown out for prier art or just logical that things like that go together. I think Apple knows it but just something to throw into a file if someone ever does try to sue them for it they can pull it out and say LOOK we have it already. A defense patent is all I see it as.

I have no pirated content. I am no fan of the MPAA, RIAA or any other AA, I use all my computers for work and I do not want to risk even the small chance of compromised content on my network.

When I watch TV, I do not watch it on cable other than the news and tornado weather. I prefer to watch HD content off of iTunes on my Apple TV. The quality is much better than the HD I get from the local cable company and I don't like commercials. (Sports is the other exception.)

 

[lilo777]

Another laughable patent

As I understand the only "new" thing about this is the choice of the icon (i.e. safe box) but who on earth let them patent this?