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Regardless of this post main topic, Apple has done one thing and that’s bring out a lot of financial illiterate consumers into the light. I’ve been reading threads on the savings account since day one and the amount of people who didn’t read the terms and conditions or simply post false info is staggering.

To anyone reading this, put your money in a reputable institution that’s comfortable for you to manage. Don’t feel you need to move money around for small interest gains that are ultimately variable. If you don’t feel like tying up money in other investments you may not understand then keeping it safe in ANY savings account earning interest is better than nothing. As long as you have a Roth IRA or 401K for retirement purposes you’re already better than most in the world and everything else is maximizing/icing on the cake.
The problem is that is not remotely what this is about. Because of Apple’s obsession with secrecy, they’ve approached customer support for financial services in the exact same way they do for their hardware and software. The Tier 1 and Tier 2 agents, per Apple’s instructions, can only provide information from pre-written scripts. It is only if you can get to Tier 3 (Apple Card Managers) that you can get a non-scripted answer. This is by design, to maximize secrecy. That simply doesn’t work when it comes to finances. Any explanations of “federal law” are non sequitors, because GS was able to give a specific answer to the WSJ and at least one person in the story was not subject to increased security. Apple simply needs to do better.
 
The problem is that is not remotely what this is about. Because of Apple’s obsession with secrecy, they’ve approached customer support for financial services in the exact same way they do for their hardware and software. The Tier 1 and Tier 2 agents, per Apple’s instructions, can only provide information from pre-written scripts. It is only if you can get to Tier 3 (Apple Card Managers) that you can get a non-scripted answer. This is by design, to maximize secrecy. That simply doesn’t work when it comes to finances. Any explanations of “federal law” are non sequitors, because GS was able to give a specific answer to the WSJ and at least one person in the story was not subject to increased security. Apple simply needs to do better.
I’ve read this entire thread and your continue regurgitation of this is exhausting and simply the reality of the current process. However, it could be worse per the terms and conditions;

“NOTICE OF WITHDRAWAL - We reserve the right to require you to notify us in writing seven days before a withdrawal is made from your Account.”

So IF we really want to nitpick there’s even more hoops a customer should have had to jump through. Right or wrong/good or bad customer service, this is how the process is as of now. In all these customer instances the issues were resolved albeit with some waiting but this process is only 2 months old and Apple has input themselves as the middleman just like with the Apple card. After awhile things smoothed out with the card and customer service became better.
 
I’ve read this entire thread and your continue regurgitation of this is exhausting and simply the reality of the current process. However, it could be worse per the terms and conditions;

“NOTICE OF WITHDRAWAL - We reserve the right to require you to notify us in writing seven days before a withdrawal is made from your Account.”

So IF we really want to nitpick there’s even more hoops a customer should have had to jump through. Right or wrong/good or bad customer service, this is how the process is as of now. In all these customer instances the issues were resolved albeit with some waiting but this process is only 2 months old and Apple has input themselves as the middleman just like with the Apple card. After awhile things smoothed out with the card and customer service became better.
That is another non sequitor. We’re talking about what GS did, not what they potentially could do. The issue is that, because of Apple’s approach to customer service, customers got misinformation, until the media got involved. That is simply unacceptable. Apple needs to do better.
 
Has anyone figured out a way to pay off the Apple Card bill using apple savings?
 
I did an experiment, transferring between apple savings and my regular checking account. Once a week I transferred between them. The first 3 went fine, by the 4th week the transfer has been stuck for a 6 days at this point (this is between the same account). So the delays are not due to it being transferred to a previously unknown account.
 
Thankfully I've only needed to transfer <= $1000. Doing so to Apple Cash has been instant (and to my bank from Apple Cash, as long as early enough in the day, the same day for $0.00).

But yes, transferring to/from bank directly can take half a week or more...
 
4th time in 4 months better pick up the pace Apple.
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