Apple Says Aperture Won't Run in Future macOS Versions After Mojave

[Padaung]

So what are some of the alternatives everyone has moved over to?

I continued with Aperture for just over a year after they announced they were ceasing development. A new camera forced the change in the end. I tried out trials of C1P, Exposure and Lightroom.

C1P produced excellent results, but the learning curve was too steep for me and at that moment in time I didn't have time to persevere (a friend and colleague did persevere and he hasn't looked back). Exposure was lacking several functions that were important to me. So I went with Lightroom...

However, I never felt at one with Lightroom for a number of reasons, I always wished I was still using Aperture. I now also use Photo Mechanic for image culling, it is so much quicker than culling in Lightroom.

I trialed Exposure X4 (4th gen. of Exposure) at Christmas and found a good range of features and enhancements had been added since I first trialed it. I also really, really like the folder based image view workflow (as opposed to file import based workflow). Anyway, I ended up buying it and I'm still loving it. Their customer support is incredible too - a reply is received typically within a few hours of sending my question. I still use Photo Mechanic for image culling.

I have since also trialed FastRawViewer for culling images, and it is definitely a very good alternative to Photo Mechanic (it is also considerably cheaper). It is definitely worth trialling both PM and PRV if you don't already own either imo.

I still miss Aperture. My ideal would be culling in PM and editing in Aperture 4/5 (if only they existed!)

 

[hevaKmaI]

I've still not forgiven Apple for pulling the plug on one of the best apps they've created, especially since there's just no good alternatives…

(Hoping that Affinity eventually will create a descent DAM but that does not let Apple off the hook.)

There is. It’s called Capture One Pro, and if your shooting RAW, it’s actually better than Aperture (or Apple’s RAW processing engine) or Lightroom. It’s more expensive than Lightroom, but their Aperture importer is actually better too.

That said, the DAM functionality still isn’t as streamlined as what Aperture offered. Five years later and I’m still not ready for forgive Apple for killing Aperture.

 

[Khedron]

Looks like Mojave will be my last macOS

I doubt anything provided in future updates will justify the effort of converting old family photo libraries, plus other important software which will likely also be made incompatible

 

[InuNacho]

We need it back!!!! Lightroom is not optimised well for macs

Lightroom isn't optimized for anything.

 

[Guitar_Trance]

Article Link: Apple Says Aperture Won't Run in Future macOS Versions After Mojave

What does it matter to Apple? They care only for their bottom line now... money! Photographers, Mac-using professionals and the like, be forgotten.

While there is nothing wrong with making as much money as any individual or entity would like to earn, there IS something wrong with dropping support for something many depend on... especially if that item is better than anything else they have ever offered. And then Apple, in their sometimes careless and misguided "wisdom", just jerk it right out from underneath their users/customers, drop support for it to add insult to injury, and seem to care less.

Shall I quote a long-time misquoted statement correctly? Yes, I think I shall:

"The LOVE OF MONEY, is the root of all evil!"

Notice the correct wording is not simply "money", but the "LOVE of money". Money is a GOOD means to an end... not something to lust over and do whatever it takes in order to acquire.

 

[smirking]

C1P produced excellent results, but the learning curve was too steep for me and at that moment in time I didn't have time to persevere

Hang with it. I made my jump from Aperture to C1P by configuring C1P to look a lot like Aperture. I started with a limited feature set and once I got comfortable, I started adding more and more tools to the point that I deeply regretted not challenging myself to leave my comfort zone sooner.

Take a look at this screenshot of how I have Capture One Pro laid out.

 

[bluespark]

I wish Apple would give us the ability to color tag and assign ratings in Photos. If we could do that, Photos could be a credible replacement for Aperture for hobbyists who aren't interested in moving onto a more professional setup.

I agree that this would be enormously helpful, and it's something consumers would appreciate as much as pros.

 

[andrekate]

Killing Aperture, the beginning of the end.

 

[Dranix]

Nothing really. There were much bigger photo editing apps before and after Aperture. People just don’t like their legacy apps going away. They complained about the loss of iWeb and iDVD (both of which could not keep up with the competition), now they’ll complain about this.

Photos is the replacement now. Its features can easily be expanded by third party apps and extensions so I suspect by now these apps have more functionality than Aperture ever did.

But the UI sucks so bad in Photos...

 

[Rojaaemon]

I'm starting to wonder what it is they actually do in the $Billion doughnut.

 

[Dranix]

Are people even aware at just how crowded of a market Aperture ended up finding itself in? Depending on how you used Aperture, you have anywhere from a dozen to several dozen programs that are credible replacements.

How that? In all the years I couldn't find a single program able to replace it. They all suck 8(

 

[lkrupp]

What does it matter to Apple? They care only for their bottom line now... money! Photographers, Mac-using professionals and the like, be forgotten.

While there is nothing wrong with making as much money as any individual or entity would like to earn, there IS something wrong with dropping support for something many depend on... especially if that item is better than anything else they have ever offered. And then Apple, in their sometimes careless and misguided "wisdom", just jerk it right out from underneath their users/customers, drop support for it to add insult to injury, and seem to care less.

Shall I quote a long-time misquoted statement correctly? Yes, I think I shall:

"The LOVE OF MONEY, is the root of all evil!"

Notice the correct wording is not simply "money", but the "LOVE of money". Money is a GOOD means to an end... not something to lust over and do whatever it takes in order to acquire.

Get over yourself. Oh boo-hoo, Apple has chosen not to continue development of an app SOME users like. What law of the universe states that an app must be supported forever once it exists. And if Apple only cares about its bottom line then why are they doing this in light of the fact they have no replacement product and Photos is free. If anybody will be the making money on this decision it’s Adobe. And finally, NO ONE depends on Aperture. they only prefer it. There are other, better solutions.

 

[JimmyBanks6]

Apple and Nikon killed my love of taking pictures. Lightroom is NOT a solution. Capture One and DXO are very good but Aperture was the very best. iPhoto and Capture NX, both free but both useless. Apple doesn't make me dream anymore.

Your love of taking photos was reliant on an easily replaceable piece of software? Bizarre.

And what does Nikon have to do with Aperture, anyway.

 

[mozumder]

Can someone explain to me why Aperture is so loved? I've never used it, so I want to be educated about it. It seems like all photo editing apps do the same basic things, so what was so useful/special about Aperture?

Incredible asset management and organization for editing purposes (editing = cutting down thousands of photos to your few selects).

Try rating photos 1-5 stars, or tagging them, and then filtering out photos with less than 3 stars, and then rearrange them to compare with other photos with 4 or 5 stars, etc..

You can't do that with Photos app.

 

[smirking]

How that? In all the years I couldn't find a single program able to replace it. They all suck 8(

Look harder. Here's a good list to start with:
https://havecamerawilltravel.com/photographer/lightroom-alternatives/

I tried half of the titles on that list. I ended up picking Capture One Pro because it was closest to Aperture's workflow, but offered way more power.

Just Google "Lightroom alternatives" and you'll have more options than you'll have time to try.

 

[Greenmeenie]

I really think Apple is making a mistake here. They should be developing & enhancing their own creative software like aperture...not phasing them out. But what ya gonna do?

 

[cardfan]

Get over yourself. Oh boo-hoo, Apple has chosen not to continue development of an app SOME users like. What law of the universe states that an app must be supported forever once it exists. And if Apple only cares about its bottom line then why are they doing this in light of the fact they have no replacement product and Photos is free. If anybody will be the making money on this decision it’s Adobe. And finally, NO ONE depends on Aperture. they only prefer it. There are other, better solutions.

Can we stop calling desktop programs apps? I think of an app as a lite mobile limited program designed to run on a limited mobile OS.

Apple could’ve made money on aperture or its updated versions. They chose not to. As someone mentioned before. Strategic reasons. Most responses simply disagree with this strategy.

 

[nwcs]

So many people moaning about Aperture... It was OK in its day and good at the beginning. Apple clearly saw the decline of the DSLR market and wisely stopped development of Aperture. They are interested in the mass market and the mass market could not care less for Aperture or the like. The numbers of working pros is far less than it was and the average income is correspondingly less. Like or lump the subscription but Adobe Photoshop CC is a better option for most. CaptureOne is clearly superior, and has been, for years.

This caterwauling about Aperture is really ridiculous.

 

[Mr. Incandenza]

Incredibly mad at Apple for phasing out AVI support. My not-even-that-old Sony camera records time lapses in that format and it's an already huge pain in the ass having to convert them all. Why?

 

[vbctv]

Can we stop calling desktop programs apps? I think of an app as a lite mobile limited program designed to run on a limited mobile OS.

Apple could’ve made money on aperture or its updated versions. They chose not to. As someone mentioned before. Strategic reasons. Most responses simply disagree with this strategy.

App is just short for application. Every program both desktop & mobile that is installed is an application, therefore an app. It's like tomato, tomato, potato, potato...

 

[Analog Kid]

RIP Aperture. Was nice knowing you. Very happy having migrated to Capture One, following an entirely unsatisfactory interregnum with Light Room

I'm still trying to get comfortable with Capture One. The three things I miss are hierarchical keywords, very large library support and good facial recognition. Capture One seems geared towards smaller catalogs which means I need an organization system to manage catalogs on top of using catalogs to manage images.

 

[smirking]

Can someone explain to me why Aperture is so loved? I've never used it, so I want to be educated about it. It seems like all photo editing apps do the same basic things, so what was so useful/special about Aperture?

It was a very good program for its time, but hasn't aged well.

It covered a wide range of functionality and did most of them above average. A lot of similarly wide scoped programs lacked Aperture's consistency in being always acceptable. There were programs that were excellent in one aspect, but terrible in others.

The most magical thing about Aperture was that it didn't suck at anything. It also wasn't awesome at lots of things too, but it avoided sucking. You might not get all the power you needed out of Aperture, but you couldn't go wrong with it as a foundation.

There are numerous programs that have this quality too though. They may not be super powerful across the board, but they don't suck in one are and outperform in another.

 

[Dranix]

But none

Look harder. Here's a good list to start with:
https://havecamerawilltravel.com/photographer/lightroom-alternatives/

I tried half of the titles on that list. I ended up picking Capture One Pro because it was closest to Aperture's workflow, but offered way more power.

Just Google "Lightroom alternatives" and you'll have more options than you'll have time to try.

But none on this list has a useable and fast DAM integrated.

 

[bigfatipod]

The software was discontinued four years ago.

I'm still trying to get comfortable with Capture One. The three things I miss are hierarchical keywords, very large library support and good facial recognition. Capture One seems geared towards smaller catalogs which means I need an organization system to manage catalogs on top of using catalogs to manage images.

Any idea if capture one allows you to import keyword tagging or the aperture 'star' rating feature?

 

[cardfan]

So many people moaning about Aperture... It was OK in its day and good at the beginning. Apple clearly saw the decline of the DSLR market and wisely stopped development of Aperture. They are interested in the mass market and the mass market could not care less for Aperture or the like. The numbers of working pros is far less than it was and the average income is correspondingly less. Like or lump the subscription but Adobe Photoshop CC is a better option for most. CaptureOne is clearly superior, and has been, for years.

This caterwauling about Aperture is really ridiculous.

Apple could’ve been in the dslr market already making a dent and reinventing it. Mirrorless. Running iOS. Missed opportunity when the main concern about Apple is reliance on iPhone whose sales aren’t growing any longer. Instead we got Apple car nonsense and now services bs.