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Apple Says Apple ID Password on Shooter's iPhone Changed in Government Possession, Losing Access to Data
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Come on now.... how can he make his point if you don't let him pick and choose which parts of the story he wants to use and which he wants to ignore!
Come on now.... how can he make his point if you don't let him pick and choose which parts of the story he wants to use and which he wants to ignore!
Just wondering - in your post, who is "he" and "which parts of the story he wants to use and which he wants to ignore" refers to whom?
If you intended to refer to me, I'd just point out that I have not as yet asserted any position here pro or con, and I did not know of that SB post, for which I thank you.
Etan
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I'm thinking: "Give every American a gun and let the problem solve itself. That country has problems."
But then I remember that every country has problems, and every country has innocents that share the same values as me. The sheer population of the US is why this is such a difficult problem to solve. I do think that the belief about the "right to own a gun" is a mental illness. Guns really are a chicken-**** way to protect yourself.... shoot from afar? What about a good ol' fist fight... get bloody and bruised! Yah, then there's the woman vs. men debate, but isn't it funny that it's mostly men that are defending guns, when woman would be the ones to find them most useful for self defence from men that could otherwise overpower them? Oh, this discussion could go on (is going on) forever.
Having guns around only serves to feed the very same problem that it's trying to solve. Ironic.
Besides the two phones the shooters crushed, they also removed the hard drive and disposed of it somewhere. Remember the Feds sifting the lake looking for it.
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The FBI is totally independent from the WH, you knew that but had to spout garbage. That's been the case since Watergate.
Relax... just a little playful joking. And you sort of open yourself up to it when you make very definitive statements, like:
"No the FBI did NOT change the password!
Someone at the County IT dept REMOTELY changed the password after the phone was already in possession of the FBI.
What we don't know is whether it was done maliciously or out of stupidity!"
I would suggest that before you make such a bold statement of fact, and only present those two possible options, that you first have read the full available information (in the posts above yours as well as referenced article)...
Well, most of the people care if their privacy is compromised. Are you OK if one empties your bank accounts and trashes your credit rating? Most people would object.
The FBI accidented da investigation. Shocking!
I can't help but think that the FBI is flexing its muscle, trying to scare the public, and targeting because they want to take down Goliath. The iPhone IS Apple's bread and butter product - and if Apple caves and the world believes that the device has become an expensive, insecure spying tool, what do you think will happen to Apple and iPhone sales?
Increased sales from terrorists, pedophiles, drug dealers, rapists, murderers, kidnappers, child molesters, and related undesirables.
A whole new market niche!
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It's starting to look more and more as if SAMSUNG is behind all of this. Did anybody check if there was a connection to their technical terror department?
Maybe since SAMSUNG copies anything they even have the info that's on that phone?
If the FBI got a court order for Samsung to do the same, Korea and China would see that as an act of war.
Think I'll give up e-mail then.
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You forgot government officials and clergy, if you're going to list unsavory sorts, be thorough; although, in all fairness, there's a lot of overlap in those categories.
Check out the table in this support document. Apple state that the backup is encrypted both in transit and on Apple's servers. A third party would not be able to make any sense of the backup file unless they knew the iCloud user name and password. If this is not the case, that would be a serious security fail in the backup/restore process.
https://www.apple.com/privacy/approach-to-privacy/
Apple retains the encryption keys in our own data centers
...for third-party vendors, not the actual AppleID password. Apple can provide your Google encryption key if you asked your phone to store it.
Change the password? Heck wipe the thing.
I don't mind them getting info off a dead terrorists phone. In circumstances like this they should be able to go to Apple for help. To ask Apple to defeat that which protects us and our privacy? Oh hell no.
Encryption protects trillions of online transactions every day. Whether you’re shopping or paying a bill, you’re using encryption. It turns your data into indecipherable text that can only be read by the right key. We’ve been protecting your data for over a decade with SSL and TLS in Safari, FileVault on Mac, and encryption that’s built into iOS. We also refuse to add a "backdoor" into any of our products because that undermines the protections we’ve built in. And we can’t unlock your device for anyone because you hold the key — your unique password. We’re committed to using powerful encryption because you should know the data on your device and the information you share with others is protected.
Customers always seem to pay the price in the form of higher prices or reduced stock value every time a company screws up. The customers and workers never get justice, it seems. But it's nice to know you want corporations to have every conceivable free ride and no justice. But we've all heard it before, big government = bad and big corporation = good.
This story is getting weirder by every day.
If it is just an accidental Apple Id password change issue, Apple could technically allow this ONE Apple Id to sign-on with/without any credentials and let iCloud auto backup whatever is on the device. Bit more complicated than giving out passwords to social engineers. Of course assumption is no one messed up the device as well.
If it is just an accidental Apple Id password change issue, Apple could technically allow this ONE Apple Id to sign-on with/without any credentials and let iCloud auto backup whatever is on the device. Bit more complicated than giving out passwords to social engineers. Of course assumption is no one messed up the device as well.
I hope apple doesn't give in. If so we are all screwed.
James
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