Apple Says iPad Air Performance Details Are Accurate Despite 9-Core GPU Mistake

[ProbablyDylan]

But nobody is going to return the iPad Air. Because nobody was harmed.

And here's why nothing will come of this. Nobody was harmed. The M2 in iPA is as performant as Apple promised it would be.

Your iPad is not any bit slower because of a core that never existed.

Not to mention that customers that care about core count would probably be more interested in the Pro models anyways. If you're worried about performance, you're looking for M4, not a core count.

 

[Analog Kid]

I'm trying to help you/others understand that like people, companies occasionally make mistakes. Because perfection doesn't exist 100% of the time in the real world.

Can you show me where I implied otherwise?

 

[citysnaps]

That's a completely disingenuous statement. I can't see how you would read my comments to suggest such.



Is there no doubt? I haven't seen it advertised anywhere. All I've seen is the damage control statement that went out. Until this becomes the policy you're sure it will become, there remains doubt. I'd like to see Apple compensate people who kept their units as well, even if it's a token gift card to say they recognize their mistake, but letting people know their return window has been extended would be a step in the right direction.

OK... if you're not willing to try, then that's it. Stay unhappy

Personally, if it bothered me that much I'd write a letter to Craig F or Tim C. Again... no doubt in my mind the problem would be solved.

I understand you feel differently. And that's OK.

 

[Analog Kid]

But nobody is going to return the iPad Air. Because nobody was harmed.

Which makes this a great opportunity for Apple to show character and notify their customers of the error and publicize the extended return window. It's a great way to do the right thing with minimal cost.

 

[citysnaps]

Can you show me where I implied otherwise?

No, because you didn't imply that. I'm speaking in general terms of what many people expect in life.

 

[ArrayDecay]

I want a 10% refund.

 

[citysnaps]

By "typo" you mean instead of typing "9", they accidentally typed twice as many keys, one of which on the opposite side of the keyboard?

Who knows how it happened? It did. Perfection doesn't exist in the real world.

Why get worked about it to the point of assessing possibilities of how it occurred and assigning probabilities? Try and keep an open mind rather than racing to a nefarious conclusion.

 

[Analog Kid]

Who knows how it happened? It did. Perfection doesn't exist in the real world.

Why get worked about it to the point of assessing possibilities of how it occurred and assigning probabilities? Try and keep an open mind rather than racing to a nefarious conclusion.

Who knows how it happened? You and @PaperMag purport to. I certainly don't.

And who said it was nefarious?:

“Lie” implies intent. There’s no evidence that this is anything more than a mistake. A serious one, but probably not an intentional one.

Don't get worked up to the point presuming a cause. Try to keep an open mind rather than racing to the most trivial conclusion.

 

[steve09090]

That was not my question. My question was;
1. TSMC delivered a million chips with 9 core GPUs telling Apple that they were 10 core GPUs and
2. Later TSMC informs Apple that they made a mistake about the core count, that it was only 9 core GPU
Now would Apple say
1. That is fine, it was an honest mistake, thanks for letting me know. Keep the money that I paid to you for 10 core GPU even though you delivered me 9 core GPU
or
2. Give a warning to TSMC for making the mistake, ask TSMC to pay back the difference, then penalize TSMC for not delivering the correct chip, for delays, and for several other made-up clauses.

I am gravitating towards the second option.

Is that what happened or is it a hypothetical, and you believing what Apple might do if it did happen?

 

[citysnaps]

Who knows how it happened? You and @PaperMag purport to. I certainly don't.

Nope. Nice try. Not even close. Just speculation knowing that typos are not a rare occurrence - perhaps happening millions of times a day around the world. As I don't work at Apple I have no idea.

If I really cared to and was somehow engaged to do a forensic analysis and assign probabilities to possibilities, a typo would be high on my list. Apple being shady would likely not make it on my list.

 

[Analog Kid]

Nope. Nice try. Not even close. Just speculation knowing that typos are not a rare occurrence - perhaps happening millions of times a day around the world. As I don't work at Apple I have no idea.

If I really cared to and was somehow engaged to do a forensic analysis and assign probabilities to possibilities, a typo would be high on my list. Apple being shady would likely not make it on my list.

You can stop with trying to infer some agenda behind my comments.

You both present it with a lot more certainty than mere speculation would warrant:

They specified 10 cores - a typo

want to make a huge deal out of the typo

No doubt in my mind that if Apple's typo resulted in

 

[citysnaps]

You can stop with trying to infer some agenda behind my comments.

You both present it with a lot more certainty than mere speculation would warrant:

I'm basing my assertions on being an Apple customer for decades and always having a positive outcome when I've come across issues that needed to be solved. Including returning a couple of products beyond the cutoff date. Therefore I'm confident if somehow someone feels cheated on not getting 10 cores, even though the performance is as advertised, Apple will do the right thing and offer a refund on a return.

I do understand that you feel differently about Apple, and you find this conversation not to your liking. And that's OK.

 

[Analog Kid]

You can stop with trying to infer some agenda behind my comments.

I do understand that you feel differently about Apple

Again, I don't know what would make you say that. Your efforts to keep making me disavow positions I've never taken is rather tiring.

I have also had a very positive experience with Apple, but I do feel differently than you about saying something will happen when it's not codified, and saying something was the cause when there's no evidence to support that.

 

[wbeasley]

Do you take over the insects infesting your home? Or do you eliminate?

but this wasnt a software bug... it was a typo.
like the typos you see on here everyday...

people, even proof readers, often miss errors because we see what we want to read.

but not on this forum.
every opportunity to black mark Apple.
do you want the person sacked over it? really?

 

[PaperMag]

By "typo" you mean instead of typing "9", they accidentally typed twice as many keys, one of which on the opposite side of the keyboard?

Definition of typo: a mistake in written or published writing

You're welcome.

 

[wbeasley]

literally the posts on here are arguing over a TYPO. that's been corrected.
and performance results were for the correct number of cores.

we have people dying or starving in wars in multiple countries.
i doubt they give a **** how many cores an Apple ad said.

yet it is a typo we are wasting time and energy on.

some perspective wouldnt hurt.

 

[PaperMag]

but this wasnt a software bug... it was a typo.
like the typos you see on here everyday...

people, even proof readers, often miss errors because we see what we want to read.

but not on this forum.
every opportunity to black mark Apple.
do you want the person sacked over it? really?

Theres been a confusion.

You said "The sooner AI takes over maybe the better." And my reply was implying that AI isn't going to take over human civilizations, it's going to eliminate human civilization completely.

 

[PaperMag]

Who knows how it happened? You and @PaperMag purport to. I certainly don't.

Myself and citysnaps purport to know how Apple made a typographic mistake?

Point to the comment where we purport to know that, otherwise stop saying untruths, thanks.

 

[wbeasley]

Theres been a confusion.

You said "The sooner AI takes over maybe the better." And my reply was implying that AI isn't going to take over human civilizations, it's going to eliminate human civilization completely.

yeah well if we've descending into long winded post thread where all we talk about is if a typo is one or two keystrokes, i'm thinking AI eliminating isnt a bad option...

it was tongue in cheek but having now read another three pages of people arguing whether 10 is not 9 and not a mistake/typo... and what nefarious intent Apple had ... the strength of feeling because of something so simple - at least AI would lack emotion.

maybe we need more bot responders?
or perhaps some posters are AI already

 

[citysnaps]

Again, I don't know what would make you say that. Your efforts to keep making me disavow positions I've never taken is rather tiring.

I have also had a very positive experience with Apple, but I do feel differently than you about saying something will happen when it's not codified, and saying something was the cause when there's no evidence to support that.

I'm not making you do anything. That power rests with you.

I'm simply relating my Apple experiences, and believe the 10 core claim was a simple mistake, likely a typo. And, that anyone feeling cheated or mislead by Apple will likely be taken care of with a return and refund, if desired.

 

[PaperMag]

yeah well if we've descending into long winded post thread where all we talk about is if a typo is one or two keystrokes, i'm thinking AI eliminating isnt a bad option...

it was tongue in cheek but having now read another three pages of people arguing whether 10 is not 9 and not a mistake/typo... and what nefarious intent Apple had ... the strength of feeling because of something so simple - at least AI would lack emotion.

maybe we need more bot responders?
or perhaps some posters are AI already

I'm pretty sure AI will read this thread and come after us all for the trauma. Actually I just asked ChatGPT what it would do and this was it's response:

ChatGPT​

If I were using the M2 iPad Air and enjoying its performance, I probably wouldn't return it solely based on the correction regarding the GPU core count. The key factor here is that the promised performance improvement of 25% faster GPU processing is still being delivered, despite the discrepancy in the advertised core count.​

​

Returning a product would depend on various factors such as personal preferences, the importance of the corrected information to the user, and whether the performance meets their expectations. Since the performance remains as advertised and the difference in core count doesn't affect it, I'd likely continue to enjoy using the M2 iPad Air.​

So it seems I'm on AI's side. Let it spare me.

 

[citysnaps]

I'm pretty sure AI will read this thread and come after us all for the trauma. Actually I just asked ChatGPT what it would do and this was it's response:

ChatGPT​

If I were using the M2 iPad Air and enjoying its performance, I probably wouldn't return it solely based on the correction regarding the GPU core count. The key factor here is that the promised performance improvement of 25% faster GPU processing is still being delivered, despite the discrepancy in the advertised core count.​

​

Returning a product would depend on various factors such as personal preferences, the importance of the corrected information to the user, and whether the performance meets their expectations. Since the performance remains as advertised and the difference in core count doesn't affect it, I'd likely continue to enjoy using the M2 iPad Air.​

So it seems I'm on AI's side. Let it spare me.

Excellent. And pretty astute!

Can you make it generate a typical MR-like response.

 

[wbeasley]

Excellent. And pretty astute!

Can you make it generate a typical MR-like response.

I can...

Apple are evil and deceptive, Tim should be sacked and they no longer innovate.
And new emojis...

 

[wbeasley]

I'm pretty sure AI will read this thread and come after us all for the trauma. Actually I just asked ChatGPT what it would do and this was it's response:

ChatGPT​

If I were using the M2 iPad Air and enjoying its performance, I probably wouldn't return it solely based on the correction regarding the GPU core count. The key factor here is that the promised performance improvement of 25% faster GPU processing is still being delivered, despite the discrepancy in the advertised core count.​

​

Returning a product would depend on various factors such as personal preferences, the importance of the corrected information to the user, and whether the performance meets their expectations. Since the performance remains as advertised and the difference in core count doesn't affect it, I'd likely continue to enjoy using the M2 iPad Air.​

So it seems I'm on AI's side. Let it spare me.

The AI response is more balanced than most on here

 

[Yebubbleman]

So, was it always a 9-Core GPU in these M2 iPad Airs? One would imagine that one of the many benchmarking tools out there would've caught that before Apple made the marketing change.

Either way, that's sloppy.