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Glad they’re jumping on this. Did no one test these apps before release?

It’s not the hardware, it’s the software and our lack of QC. We couldn’t be bothered to test our flagship product with some of the most common apps on the planet. That’s what our users are for.
Just like when the iPhone 14 Pro Max camera was shaking violently until it broke when using the camera in Instagram and Snapchat you would think these are the first apps they test...😂😂😂😂
 
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I don't think macOS has ever been as stable as Sonoma is for me, and I've been running it since Lion. iOS is also pretty great considering everything it is doing and the massive number of 3rd party apps.

But sure, think it's run by idiots. Forum experts strike again!
Sonoma is rock solid. iOS needs an UI redesign. They need to adopt the 3D look that the macOS app icons has. It's bizarre how the iOS UI still is on that flat UI design that it's been stuck on since iOS 7. Considering how most Android phone makers have moved back to 3D iconography from the flat look of the 2010's.
 
Just because “Apple said” it doesn’t mean it’s true. Apple said a lot of things in the past, e.g. #Batterygate, yeah “Apple said they didn’t throttle”, well at the end it turned to “Apple lied”.

Do you trust anything Apple says?

If not, why are you even a customer? It's must be tiresome using important devices and services from a company you believe is lying to you all the time.
 
Not to discount anyone's experiences, because I experienced heat issues in during the first few days, but I'm skeptical of the hysteria. Battery life has been okay—not as great as I hoped, but acceptable.

If you look at the benchmarks, the A17 Pro achieves similar scores to the M2 in the MBA. Where it falls behind is the GPU per watt. The previous chips were around 9-10W. The sixth one they added now pulls 14W. They gained CPU speed, but lost GPU efficiency.

As for durability, I just want to leave this here: Loughh. Jerry must have incredible strength! Either way, no phone is perfect, certainly not 15 series. Still, I'm enjoying the 15P more than my 14P. The 13P was pretty awesome, tho!

Hope everyone gets the best out of whatever your holding!
 
No, material wise it’s worse…

Titanium thermal conductivity λ=15.24W/(m. K), about 1/4 nickel, iron 1/5, aluminum 1/14, and a variety of titanium alloy thermal conductivity than the thermal conductivity of titanium decreased by about 50%.

The thermal conductivity of stainless-steel ranges between 20-60 W/(m.K). Generally speaking, stainless steel has higher thermal conductivity than titanium and is thus more suitable for applications that require heat transfer or rapid cooling.



You have to look at the specific implementation to measure.
Also they're using a combination of titanium and aluminium alloys which isn't surprising if it's better than stainless steel.
 
You have to look at the specific implementation to measure. What the alloys have in general doesn't mean anything. Also they're using mostly stainless steel.
Few posts later i referred directly to what they used “titanium grade 5”, which is even worse.


Yeah it’s not pure titanium, it’s even worse than pure titanium, it’s Ti-6Al-4V a.k.a titanium grade 5.

Wikipedia:
Ti-6Al-4V has a very low thermal conductivity at room temperature, 6.7 - 7.5 W/m·K, which contributes to its relatively poor machinability.
 
I’m sure the next lawsuit is already knocking on their door.

Anyway it’s so funny to see people defending Apple in all kind of ways like… Apple has eaten my child, nooo your child ran into Apples mouth, it’s your child fault.

Have you ever said anything positive about Apple?

Why are you a customer of a company you seem to hate and distrust?

This being a software problem is highly believable for anyone with programming or software experience.
 
Apple needs a leader(s) that hold people accountable. Under Tim, Apple has gone soft where a level of ineptitude is not only viewed as acceptable, but commonplace.
Idk if you’re troll baiting or what but this is ridiculous…under Jobs Apple had an insane amount of blunders, even if we’re just confining the list to the iPhone only. Remember when they first launched Apple Maps? Total disaster.
 
Not an apple fanboy, but I have an experienced any heat issue, and I really hope they don’t just throttle down the phone.
I doubt if they will. I'm a software guy and I believe Apple (this time <g>) when they say it's software that's causing the problem. (But maybe not 3rd party, it could well be the OS that has the problem.)

They my change the heat profile, where it will throttle sooner, but I bet we wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
 
My initial reax was to think "of course not!" because if it was the Titanium, it'd render their nauseating nonstop "Titanium!" TV marketing campaign immediately moot. That said, I've not had any heating problems in my 15Pro use case other than some slight warming when I first set it up.

Relatedly: Dear Apple, Titanium is an element. It's not gonna cure cancer or world hunger. Focusing on Titanium in your marketing is like a car company saying our vehicles come "with metal bodies" Whoop-de-doo.
 
Why would changing the material of the tiny metal frame around the phone cause thermal issues..?
That's not even part of the passive cooling assembly??

I swear "analysts" will say the stupidest **** without knowing jack about thermodynamics and people will lap it up because LE INSIDE SOURCES XDDD
What a ****ing joke
 
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Have you ever said anything positive about Apple?

Why are you a customer of a company you seem to hate and distrust?

This being a software problem is highly believable for anyone with programming or software experience.
Yes, in the past, but that’s off topic.
 
How is the iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max overheating not a hardware issue? It's the A17 Pro chip that's generating the heat, is it not? If the A17 Pro chip is not hardware, then what is it? It's certainly not software.

Says an expert in software development...

Hardware will do whatever the software asks it too, so bad software code can cause problems at the hardware level.

Meta already admitted that Instagram needs a fix.
 
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Perhaps it was subsequent app updates post iOS 17 "going gold" that caused the issue?



I guess it is a matter of semantics. The A17 Pro (hardware) is generating the heat, but it is generating the heat because some applications (software) are triggering the A17 Pro cores to run longer and harder than they should.
Leave the iPhone 14 Pro in your shirt pocket for a while with the camera accidentally triggered, and you will soon find out what overheating means! I imagine the same might be true of the iPhone 15 Pro.
 
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Says an expert in software development...

Hardware will do whatever the software asks it too, so bad software code can cause problems at the hardware level.

Meta already admitted that Instagram needs a fix.

Just look at what happened in PC land a few months ago. With the new chips from AMD and Intel, mobo manufacturers had bad BIOSes and out-of-spec voltage regulation. This allowed the chips to greatly exceed specifications. The damn things were smoking, melting, burning up in milliseconds.

All software-related. Then the mobo manufacturers tried to cover it up. And deny warranty coverage. All of it fully documented in thousands of threads and scores of videos.

We’ve got it very good in Apple land.






 
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