I'm sure those celebs whose lives changed forever would disagree with you. This company couldn't care less for anyone's privacy over their profit margins. Disgusting.
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Apple Says No Personal Data Was Compromised in Australian Teenager Hacking Incident
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I'm sure those celebs whose lives changed forever would disagree with you. This company couldn't care less for anyone's privacy over their profit margins. Disgusting.
I would guess the data he got was basically encrypted nonsense.
The fact celebs had poor password controls isn't Apple's fault.
Nice detailed analysis.
The fact celebs had poor password controls isn't Apple's fault.
Precisely.
Take that lawyer, living in a decent home in a decent neighborhood. A boy comes by to mow his yard. He sees the fantastic home the lawyer owns and dreams of one day going from cutting the grass to working for the lawyer to learn the craft and then owning a home similar to the lawyer. Then the boy decides to break in to the lawyers house to steal the lawyers information (for whatever the purpose of stealing the information was) and then the rest of the neighbors essentially say the boy was justified in breaking in and stealing the information. Because he was a genius.
Well then you have people mistake genius for simple determination.
Then the boy that breaks in to the home has another lawyer that makes the argument that the boy who mowed the lawn always dreamed of working for the lawyer.
Sure I understand employing someone because there is a need and the person exhibits talent but I also have to have trust. If I get a hint that I can’t trust a person, their determination or skills are not getting them a job on my payroll.
You post lacks some elegance... but no one can question the logic and aim of your truth hammer, sir.
However, a size 3 would have been adequate for this job, rather than the size 20 you brought.
You ask that questions as if it matters in relation to being hacked. It doesn't.
If I break into your computer and steal 90GB worth of your data, it doesn't matter whether or not I stole proprietary IP on your upcoming chip architecture or Grandma Betty Lou's cookie recipes. The fact that I bypassed your security should be your primary concern. According to other sources the kid was in and out of Apple's systems for nearly a year before detection. What he took is secondary to how did he get in... and remain undetected for so long. Cuz if he get in...
Bank pens.
Yea they can catch them. After a year. LOL
Don’t think it’s Samsung. Samsung phones were caught texting users private pics to said Samsung users contact list
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You mean his avatar of the pixel 3xl.
I think he really wants a phone with a notch.
I don't think the comparison is a good one. He likely didn't break anything with his intrusion (like when a burglar smashes a window)...he exposed security flaws that the company can then patch...what he took was through replication (rather than stealing the only copy of something) and it was likely encrypted and therefore of little value...and the risk of it being in the real world was curtailed when he was arrested and the storage was recovered with the data. (disclaimer: they don't really go into much detail for many different reasons...only Apple knows how risky the data that he took was in the outside world.)
I'm not saying what he did wasn't serious or that it should go unpunished...just that it is different than offline theft and that every crime should be judged/evaluated in its own context.
For others in the thread saying Apple won't hire him because he's not an ethical hacker...well that's why the gov't will likely scoop him up.
Hopefully, this young person will have the opportunity to learn from his mistake and authorities will help funnel any talents into productive uses.
That applies to google as well doesn’t it?
Gmail was compromised just like iCloud during that incident
You keep omitting that little nugget of truth.
I’m sure your not being deliberate.
“So does that mean google couldn’t care less for anyone’s privacy over their profit margins”...as well?
Yeah, with passwords like "password" or "12345" or their birthday. Of course no one ever wants to take personal responsibility.
Far more egregious was google not encrypting gmail traffic between their data centers, exposing emails to anyone with half a brain. Yep, profits over security. They did finally step up after years.
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Yup. When you leave your debit card in the gas pump, the same debit card that you chose 1,2,3,4 as your pin number. Some super high tech genius nerd scoops it up and "hacks" your bank account, its Bank America's fault!!!! Why is their security so lousy.
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Very much disagree. It would be better for the kid to build up his life as a White Hat after jail. Prove that he learned from this and turned his life around. Not get a direct pass into Apple. There are plenty of smart deserving kids NOT maliciously hacking into secure systems. Or at least when they do it, they then submit their findings appropriately.
When I worked IT for a 1:1 elementary school I caught a couple of savvy kids poking around unsecured registries on the network, over my tenure. Sat each of them down and had a talk about their future, and the short probation they were going on. Explained the money they could make and NOT go to jail by being security expert White Hats. These (who should have graduated or near graduating high school now) are the ones Apple should hire. Assuming they stuck with their tech inclinations. And I do hope each of them has found a good way forward.
Also tried to get the district to lock down those registries... which they never did and never acknowledged my internal emails. So they kinda became a seudo-hack-trap for me for these kinds for precocious youths. Still kept an elevated monitor on them just the same. Like making sure the kid you catch trying to free climb the side of the building during recess doesn't do it again, and what they're trying to climb currently is "safe". And you hope someday they can climb Half-Dome or something and not die.
Apple’s servers were not hacked for this. The info was phished and the celebrities basically gave the attacker their info. How is this Apples fault? Especially when the email was a gmail email address that was used in these phishing attacks.
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What’s disgusting is the FUD in this email because you obviously did not research the way in which this occurred.
And as far as profit margins, go Apple. They have a willing customer base to buy their products.
No software is invulnerable. All software is made by fallible men. There is some risk with any data storage. The file system in your house is vulnerable as well. I’d argue it is ultimately more vulnerable.
You ask that questions as if it matters in relation to being hacked. It doesn't.
If I break into your computer and steal 90GB worth of your data, it doesn't matter whether or not I stole proprietary IP on your upcoming chip architecture or Grandma Betty Lou's cookie recipes. The fact that I bypassed your security should be your primary concern. According to other sources the kid was in and out of Apple's systems for nearly a year before detection. What he took is secondary to how did he get in... and remain undetected for so long. Cuz if he get in...
Bank pens.
Yes, bank pens was my analogy for stealing things of little value but still being considered stealing.
Clearly this went over your head.
Most of celebrities are drug addicts, or alcoholics, or abusers, or crazy, or drama queens, or fakers.
And yet, they are celebrated idols.
One famous British footballer set his house on fire, because he thought, it is a great idea to use fireworks in his bathroom. And then he became spokesman for a fire safety.
Minister of Health Deparment is not a doctor.
So, yes. This is the society we live in.
Live with it, or change it for us.
