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You realize again, the iCloud celebrity photo issue was NOT Apples fault. It was a phish issue that an attacker sent an email from a gmail enail, and got the login credentials that way? Apple was not hacked.

One could argue Apple was really late with their 2FA implementation Wich was only implemented after the celebrity hacks.
 
It's funny how stuff becomes illegal when it's successful. It's Apple's fault their systems were vulnerable NOT the hacker.

This is big corp making criminals out of kids and geniuses. Congrats Apple you're a predator of kids.
Black is white and up is down.

Unless you have information that the rest of us don't, your supposition that Apple is to blame for making a criminal out of a minor, just because Apple is a huge corporation, is not even close to factual reality.

Pretzel logic.
 
According to this article: https://bgr.com/2018/08/16/apple-servers-hacked-teen-sensitive-data-year/

Apple was able to access his computer's serial number. How is this possible?

They probably meant “MAC address” or something & the non-tech media could only decipher that as “serial number”.
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It's funny how stuff becomes illegal when it's successful. It's Apple's fault their systems were vulnerable NOT the hacker.

This is big corp making criminals out of kids and geniuses. Congrats Apple you're a predator of kids.

Wtf are you talking about????!!!!
Lol, so if I don’t shut my padlock on my shed all the way accidentally, or bought an easy to pick lock, in error... I am at fault, if someone steals my mower & chainsaw? *smh*
Your “logic” is astounding.
If Apple made an error that pushed other users’ data on his iCloud or something & he was able to access it then, yeah... their fault.
If (as was the case here... considering the evidence of data being stored in a folder called “hacky hacky hack”), the kid was maliciously seeking to intrude upon a server that was owned by someone else- their property.
This is INCREDIBLY clear.
I absolutely hope they (Australian authorities) don’t “throw the book at him”, considering his age & lack of sensitive data accessed- but I certainly would never take the stance that he didn’t do anything wrong & the intrusion “wasn’t his fault”, rather the victim’s- for not doing more to prevent it.
Imho, that’s as an unapologetically horrible and inaccurate thing as to claim that a rape victim is the one at fault for not wearing less revealing clothing.
 
Whoa, slow down. We just don’t have enough information. You have no basis to claim he was after user data.

What’s an “ethical” hacker? Wouldn’t you want to make sure your hack works by downloading some amount of data?

We don’t know for how long he was breaking into Apple. That’s crucial.

Apple security doesn’t look good here. And then there’s the issue of the serial number. Where’s Apple explanation for this?

People be telling "Give this kid a job at Apple" - no, this isn't Google, or Facebook or whatever. Apple is very strict and won't risk employing this kid just because he has great hacking abilities. If he was an ethical hacker, he could have maybe contacted Apple telling them about how he dug into their security and not try to take away the users' data.
 
Quote: "Apple Says No Personal Data Was Compromised in Australian Teenager Hacking Incident"
Yes, of course they would say that. But they just don't want any of their users to
panic. Apple does what every other multinational corporation does, it lies. It lies constantly. It lies early and often. Did I mention that they are dishonest?
Or, they are telling the truth. You can assume what you will. But if it turns out PII was gotten, it will look bad for apple for lying.
 
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Or, they are telling the truth. You can assume what you will. But if it turns out PII was gotten, it will look bad for apple for lying.

Apple lied for years about not intentionally obsoleting their phones. Now apple fans just happily accept apple excuse "it is for your own good" :p . Apple is the envy of others having such blinded loyalty from its fans.
 
Still not Apples fault.
That they had no 2FA in place? Of course that is apples fault.
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Apple lied for years about not intentionally obsoleting their phones. Now apple fans just happily accept apple excuse "it is for your own good" :p . Apple is the envy of others having such blinded loyalty from its fans.
Also Apple the only company who can literally sell out millions of customers data to a fascist regime that prosecutes every dissident voice, rounds up and kills homosexuals, provides slave labor for manufacturing of their devices.... and still be held up as pillar of privacy and praised for its humane and environmental friendly business practices.

The hypocrisies....
 
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That they had no 2FA in place? Of course that is apples fault.
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Also Apple the only company who can literally sell out millions of customers data to a fascist regime that prosecutes every dissident voice, rounds up and kills homosexuals, provides slave labor for manufacturing of their devices.... and still be held up as pillar of privacy and praised for its humane and environmental friendly business practices.

The hypocrisies....

Compared to google building said regime their own search engine, talk about hypocrisies.
 
Apple lied for years about not intentionally obsoleting their phones. Now apple fans just happily accept apple excuse "it is for your own good" :p . Apple is the envy of others having such blinded loyalty from its fans.
Got some proof that they intentionally obsoleted the phone? This is real proof, board discussion, email memo, etc. Not the usual hyperbole, my iphone performed worse, power management, blah, blah, blah.

I'll save you the trouble, there isn't any proof. There are no facts, that support a conclusion like that, except if one likes to argue illogical reasoning and false equivalencies.
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Weakest chain in the link so, yes, Apple are at fault.
Of course it's apples fault. If you leave your car unlocked and someone walks by and tries the handle and unlocks the door open and then the person robs the car. Was that your fault? It sure is. Maybe you should be locked up instead of the thief for enabling the crime.:rolleyes:
 
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How many kids do you know that can hack Apple? This kid, in general, is a genius. And Apple themselves said no data was compromised, and they once again proved that they can catch anyone who tries to dig into their security.
he could be a script kiddie, he got caught so could't be that good.
 
No, it was 100% the user fault, that happens with phishing attacks. 2FA is not 100% immune to phishing attacks either.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/10/hacker-kevin-mitnick-shows-how-to-bypass-2fa/
I'm fairly savvy and always hover my cursor on the link before I click on it. On IOS I'm not really worries as there are no or few zero day security vulnerabilities on IOS. I also never type in my userid and password from an "unsolicited" link on the internet. No major company does that type of design in 2018, the ones that do are the malicious ones.

edit: added the word "unsolicited"
 
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Whoa, slow down. We just don’t have enough information. You have no basis to claim he was after user data.

Apple security doesn’t look good here. And then there’s the issue of the serial number. Where’s Apple explanation for this?
That could simply be a matter of the press using the wrong terms. And I’m not up to speed on Australian law, but I’m guessing many details of the case are sealed because he is a minor. Like you said, there’s just not enough information to come to a conclusion.
 
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Got some proof that they intentionally obsoleted the phone? This is real proof, board discussion, email memo, etc. Not the usual hyperbole, my iphone performed worse, power management, blah, blah, blah.

I'll save you the trouble, there isn't any proof. There are no facts, that support a conclusion like that, except if one likes to argue illogical reasoning and false equivalencies.


You got amnesia or what?

Didn't apple intentionally throttle cpu so your older phones become slower.

You don't need to answer. You going to toe the apple line and say it is done because of battery blah blah....when no other phones needed to do that :p
 
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