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Bubba Satori

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Stay untuned. Magical.

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Voytech

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Jul 6, 2010
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How much 3G data do you actually use in a month? AT&T (I'm assuming you're on AT&T since o one outside the US would have a work commute like that) has a convient report of your billing page of their web site for data usage going back over six months...

If I did the math right in my head if you streamed pandora 24 hours a day it'd only be 10MB, unless it's on 24hrs all month you'd still be under the 200 MB plan and certainly under the 2GB plan...

Your math must be way off. As you can see in the screen shot 10 days into my billing cycle and I'm at over 500MB. I usually rack up around 1.8-2.2GB per month of data usage. I don't tether, I don't do much browsing on 3G. It's almost exclusively Pandora.

If the posts above are correct and the pandora stream is around 100kbps, then by simple math:
100kbps/8 = 12.5kB/s
12.5kB/s*60*60=45MB per hour so that's 90MB per day for me and since I've worked 6 days since my billing cycle reset, this comes out to 540MB which is almost spot on with my real usage.

I too far prefer Pandora over my own library. It's an old but extensive library of music, but I've always preferred having someone or something else doing the music programming for me.

Agreed. That's why they're so popular. That's what makes them different from just another radio station, they suggest music based on your likes. It's a much more interactive experience.
 

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Kenrik

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Dec 21, 2004
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I stream music 8 hours per day @128 KBs, Don't browse on the phone and only tether to check a few websites once or twice per week.

I use 6 gigs of data per month..

98% of that is from the streaming.

Good thing I'm a developer and built my own tethering app.. I get to keep my unlimited plan. :D
 

tdmac

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Feb 9, 2008
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Agreed. That's why they're so popular. That's what makes them different from just another radio station, they suggest music based on your likes. It's a much more interactive experience.

I have been listening to Pandora more. However, one thing I am starting not to like is the repeats of songs. For example, pick a station you created based on an artist and most times it plays the same songs in pretty close to the same order. Or, the list repeats itself quickly. As if there aren't that many songs in their library that are similar to this artist.

Just this past weekend, I created a Genesis playlist. For one, there was repeats of the same songs throughout my listening session (Live and recorded versions of the same Genesis songs). Then I must have listened to all it had found to match (Maybe 2-3 hours, then I started hearing the same songs over again in the same order). On other "Stations" I have created, based on an artist you may only get like 10-12 songs that play and then it starts to repeat.

This is what I hate about regular radio. Does anyone else experience this? Pandora should be able to play for days before having to repeat or play the same song.
 

PerfSeeker

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Jul 10, 2010
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I think Remote Time Machine is a great idea. If the price were reasonable, I might even subscribe!
 

dizzy130

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I couldn't use any service where I only have access to my music when I have internet access - it's why I use Pandora only every once in a while. 75% of the time I listen to music, it's on the Metro where we only have AT&T in the stations. I guess I can see a use for a cloud-based iTunes in other circumstances, for instance if you have hundreds of GBs of music that doesn't fit on your iPhone or iPod and you want to have access to it all while you're on the road, but I will always need to keep at least my main music stored locally.

And maybe I'm wrong about this, but what's to stop a band from deciding it doesn't want an album you bought from iTunes available anymore, or an album was released mistakenly but you got a copy while it was out for a limited time, and Apple just deleting it from the cloud? They'd refund you, of course, but you still don't get the music. It happened with a Kindle book last year, if I remember right. I suppose they could do the same thing to us currently, but at least now you can back up what you've purchased to protect against that.
 

Voytech

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Jul 6, 2010
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I have been listening to Pandora more. However, one thing I am starting not to like is the repeats of songs. For example, pick a station you created based on an artist and most times it plays the same songs in pretty close to the same order. Or, the list repeats itself quickly. As if there aren't that many songs in their library that are similar to this artist.

Just this past weekend, I created a Genesis playlist. For one, there was repeats of the same songs throughout my listening session (Live and recorded versions of the same Genesis songs). Then I must have listened to all it had found to match (Maybe 2-3 hours, then I started hearing the same songs over again in the same order). On other "Stations" I have created, based on an artist you may only get like 10-12 songs that play and then it starts to repeat.

This is what I hate about regular radio. Does anyone else experience this? Pandora should be able to play for days before having to repeat or play the same song.

I have seen this to some degree. You can add more seeds to add some variety. What I did find was that Slacker was even more repetitive.
 

KALLT

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Sep 23, 2008
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With services such as Pandora, Slacker or Rhapsody, I don't know if iTunes can compete.

Those three particular services do not exist in all other countries besides the US. As a european I can only hope to use that awesome services in the future, if possible a service offered by Apple's iTunes Store. But I guess I won't see that for years, considering that I do not even have access to films and TV series in the Dutch iTunes Store.

You Americans are so lucky.
 

Voytech

macrumors member
Jul 6, 2010
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Those three particular services do not exist in all other countries besides the US. As a european I can only hope to use that awesome services in the future, if possible a service offered by Apple's iTunes Store. But I guess I won't see that for years, considering that I do not even have access to films and TV series in the Dutch iTunes Store.

You Americans are so lucky.

So we get the services and you get the better 3G speeds/coverage. Ironic a bit.
 

kayC

macrumors newbie
Feb 23, 2009
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iTunes is just as laggy on OS/X. ;)

My Mac Pro or Mini's have never experienced any Lag, and this is with over 12,326 individual songs, Total 568+ Full Albums 56 Gigabytes Song Database.

Never seen it, and with all the folks I know that use Mac's they have never ever voiced a concern over iTunes, It has no problems for them or for me.

It's those who want to have a talking point to argue that add that into the equation. And iTunes has been solid on all my Mac's with no slowdowns.

I Keep hearing a few people saying it, But no Proof other then what people believe iTunes should do, It's a Database also, so treat it as such.

Having a properly Labeled database for each album and each individual song is of the utmost importance, Having a Mix of different conflicting songs of improperly managed tracks may be the slow down people think they are having, But since day one, I have managed each album and individual song and that attention to detail has proven to save me time over and over.

To Each his or her own.
 

backdraft

macrumors 6502
Nov 4, 2002
334
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I wonder if Apple's focus on video has to do with Google's past purchase of Episodic or if maybe something similar to Amazon Video On Demand or Netflix.

It would also be great if they were working on something similar to http://www.flumotion.com/webtv/product-premier.php that is based off of Final Cut Server in the backend with a web portal for the pro market. An out if the box cataloging/video on demand/streaming solution.

MedSilo and Wiredrive look interesting as well.







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CNET reports that Apple may be scaling back its initial plans for cloud-based iTunes offerings as it continues to struggle to reach agreements with record labels to allow users to stream their iTunes content from Apple's servers to a variety of Internet-connected devices. Apple has been thought to be placing a priority on developing the service since its acquisition of streaming music firm Lala Media last December.The report notes that while it is not clear exactly why Apple has been unable to make substantial progress on the cloud streaming initiative beyond ongoing struggles to bring music labels onboard, there does appear to be some uneasiness within the Lala Media team. One of Lala's founders who moved to Apple with the acquisition has reportedly left the company, while the Lala team has been said to be working on an undisclosed video feature rather than the music-related technology it was noted for prior to the acquisition.

Of course, a focus on video for the Lala team could mean that the company is concentrating its efforts more on cloud-based streaming of TV and movie content, an aspect of the initiative that had been hinted at earlier this year. The move would also align with Apple's rumored Apple TV revamp, which will reportedly see limited on-board storage in favor of a cloud-based streaming model.

Apple may also be waiting for its massive North Carolina data center to come online at the end of the year, as it seems likely to require the center's capabilities in order to deploy its cloud-based initiative.

Article Link: Apple Scaling Back Near-Term Plans for Cloud-Based iTunes?
 
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