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Yeah, gotta love the "10.4.9 must be the final release since the next number would be 10.5 argument."

Leopard may not appear before the end of March. If that is the case, there could easily be a 10.4.10. Before (or even after) it is released.

Who cares when leopard is released for this issue...there have been updates to 10.3 since tiger was released...
 
How long before Leopard? Thats what I'd like to know

With no new info at macworld, it seems like they have lost the momentum around Leopard. I expect there to be a special event announcing iLife/iWork/something else (updated express etc) with previews of Leopard, then the momentum will really kick in.

Or they could just keep it super quiet and just have a big overview on release.

I havent come across any bugs (that i am aware of) along my way through 10.4.0 to 10.4.8. Anyway bring on 10.4.9 (and any future updates to Tiger), will ease those people who wont jump on the 10.5 bandwagon.

I will preorder Leopard as soon as i can.

I spent ages writing this (watching Newcastle being destroyed by Birmingham) so i assume other people have already written what i have said, could just delete it without posting it but i wont.
 
dumb question: Can I upgrade a Ti powerbook with Panther to Leopard when it comes out?

Yes...almost certainly.

People expect G3 iBooks to work with leopard...so your TiBook should be fine. I would wait a few days after 10.5 comes out for the experiences of others to help your decision to upgrade...
 
Who cares when leopard is released for this issue...there have been updates to 10.3 since tiger was released...

I was going to say the same thing along these lines. Just cause Leopard comes out, doesn't mean releases for .4 will still release. Gives people the option of upgrading to Leopard if they want to or just stick with Tiger, Panther, etc. Unlike M$ killing 98* support after so many years :p
 
Isn't that more like "back to spring" (instead of "still spring")?

I though the site said "mid 2007" a few days ago.... I'm pretty sure. And before that it was spring 2007.... :confused:

Not this again. It still says "spring 2007" on the US site, because it will be spring in the US. The language was adjusted to reflect geography on other Apple sites, because it won't be spring everywhere.

WWDC will be in June. That's spring in the north (summer begins the 21st of June) and mid-year worldwide.

I posted quite some time ago I expected Apple to surprise the market with a 10.5 release before the stated Spring/March 2007 date
When did Apple say that Leopard would appear in March ?
 
I was going to say the same thing along these lines. Just cause Leopard comes out, doesn't mean releases for .4 will still release. Gives people the option of upgrading to Leopard if they want to or just stick with Tiger, Panther, etc. Unlike M$ killing 98* support after so many years :p

Difference is that '98 machines suck now, they're barely useable, while panther is still a great OS...
 
Safari to open on launch multiple bookmarks and remember them on quit ala Firefox?!

So are they finally going to add the ability for Safari to open on launch multiple bookmarks and remember them on quit ala Firefox?!

What's taking Apple so long to implement this basic feature?
 
So are they finally going to add the ability for Safari to open on launch multiple bookmarks and remember them on quit ala Firefox?!

What's taking Apple so long to implement this basic feature?

Don't forget spellcheck...Safari 3.0 will be awesome!
 
One thing I've noticed is that some spots on the Apple website now state that Leopard will be out by Spring of 2007 (for example, the Bootcamp download page), which to me would mean before March 22, 2007.

I'm with some of the other posters who think it'll be released shortly after Vista, or maybe even a day or so before, to take some of the Vista fanfare away.
 
One thing I've noticed is that most spots on the Apple website now state that Leopard will be out by Spring of 2007, which to me would mean before March 22, 2007.

I'm with the other posters who think it'll be released shortly after Vista, or maybe even a day or so before, to take some of the Vista fanfare away.

You don't take anything away from the desktop OS with a 90% market share by releasing during or just before its long awaited and much talked about release. It would simply get crushed. Remember, Leopard is a big deal for the Mac community, to the general IT community or home/office user it is near to irrelevant.

Best time would be at least one (maybe two) months after Vista. Reviews of Vista will probably be "not so good", uptake may be behind predictions, word of mouth says: "disappointing", people complain about incompatible hardware or missing drivers etc. etc.
That is the time to show the alternative...
 
psychofreak said:
Don't forget spellcheck...Safari 3.0 will be awesome!

Safari spell checks for me


One thing I've noticed is that some spots on the Apple website now state that Leopard will be out by Spring of 2007 (for example, the Bootcamp download page), which to me would mean before March 22, 2007.

What? Spring is March, April, May.


Peace said:
Apple may very well be hiding features from developers but from my standpoint Leopard is still in the Alpha phase.

Could the internal builds be much further ahead then the external ones.
 
You don't take anything away from the desktop OS with a 90% market share by releasing during or just before its long awaited and much talked about release. It would simply get crushed. Remember, Leopard is a big deal for the Mac community, to the general IT community or home/office user it is near to irrelevant.

When the iPhone came out I was suprised at the media interest - certainly in the UK it was in the headline news on most channels. I suspect that with the right showmanship Apple could get a lot of fanfare about Leopard IF the changes are big enough to warrant it.
 
When the iPhone came out I was suprised at the media interest - certainly in the UK it was in the headline news on most channels. I suspect that with the right showmanship Apple could get a lot of fanfare about Leopard IF the changes are big enough to warrant it.

True, but Apples' position in the gadget market is completely different from its position in the OS market. Apple is a small underdog on the OS market. Leopard vs. Vista is like a new Sandisk XGK23* vs. the True Video iPod. No way Sandisk is going to steal Apples thunder by releasing the XGK23 at the same time as the True Video iPod, even if it is a better product.

* Just a made up product name
 
Just as we get an OS with NO bugs... that's when they'll release 10.5 with a ton of bugs. That's always fun to look forward to.

Yep. If you want a 100% stable computer, then when Leopard comes out upgrade to Tiger. And so on, for each major release.

That way your computer always has installed a highly stable .8 or .9 version.
 
Just as we get an OS with NO bugs... that's when they'll release 10.5 with a ton of bugs. That's always fun to look forward to.

Well, you are not forced to upgrade to 10.5. And there are bugs in 10.4. Thousands upon thousands of bugs. There simply is no software (apart from bunch of "Hello World!"'s) that have zero bugs.

If you want bugless software, be prepared for a long wait. a REALLY long wait.
 
Yep. If you want a 100% stable computer, then when Leopard comes out upgrade to Tiger. And so on, for each major release.

That way your computer always has installed a highly stable .8 or .9 version.
That is not how to get a stable computer. There is one, and only one, way to guarantee a stable computer: You see that power cord on the back? Unplug it. Keep it that way. Do not attepmt to turn on or connect that computer to anything under any circumstances.

Your computer is now in a stable condition, pending the entropy-induced decay of the componets.
 
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