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Apple Seeds Build 12D68 of OS X Beta 10.8.3 to Developers
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They do release small updates rapidly when there is a severe issue affecting lots of people. I don't think there are any major issues in 10.8.2 that require hotpatching.
Look, I agree with you that it'd be nice if Apple could release updates faster and make more improvements to their software. If they could do it 10 times faster, that'd be incredibly awesome. But software development takes time... it is what it is.
Edit: Don't forget they have a separate update system for blocking various compromised plug-ins, like Java and Flash. This happens automatically and usually they do it within a day.
Has the lower shutdown time being more consistent on this beta?
As for me, I just want Apple to not rush this update and takes its time to make it a good one. I think that what Apple needs is to safe guard OS X's quality, which has suffered a lot since iOS took the center stage after the release of the iPad. To me I always see OS X as the insurance policy for Apple if iOS becomes a sinking ship.
There are so many file system bugs and other serious issues in finder I frankly don't care if it gets to 50 beta.
imho 10.8.2 is one of the worst releases Apple has available for the last 2 years. It's like dealing with windows style issues..
Because you don't use windows anymore. Believe me 10.8.2 is quite perfect compared to Win release.
I can't wait to see the stories about how many security and bugs there are in 10.8.3 after the stable version goes live.
But that was exactly my point. The bigger the release, the higher the risk. They will fix a lot, and also create a whole bunch of bugs in the process...
But one thing is sure: 10.8.2 is by far the WORST ever 10.x.x release from Apple.
Possible Persistent Issue in 10.8.3: Graphics Drivers
I am seeing very frequent crashes on HDMI, Displayport and VGA hot-and coldplugging external displays on a Retina MBP 2012 (probably in the first production weeks) in 10.8.2 . It is perfectly reproducible and depending on monitor connection types and frequency of plugging events can crash the computer several times a day for me. HDMI is by a margin the most crash-prone external display connection for it. Also HDMI sound on it seems either not supported or unfinished.
I have got a bug open at Apple on the external display issue and am highly awaiting 10.8.3 for quite some time now. If this is indeed a software issue then shipping the computer with badly broken or at least not very stable external display support and then not fixing it for about 8 months would be quite a quality issue.
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I am seeing very frequent crashes on HDMI, Displayport and VGA hot-and coldplugging external displays on a Retina MBP 2012 (probably in the first production weeks) in 10.8.2 . It is perfectly reproducible and depending on monitor connection types and frequency of plugging events can crash the computer several times a day for me. HDMI is by a margin the most crash-prone external display connection for it. Also HDMI sound on it seems either not supported or unfinished.
I have got a bug open at Apple on the external display issue and am highly awaiting 10.8.3 for quite some time now. If this is indeed a software issue then shipping the computer with badly broken or at least not very stable external display support and then not fixing it for about 8 months would be quite a quality issue.
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You are asking the wrong question: "What the hell did they F\/CK UP SO MUCH (from Lion onwards) that it now takes them (at least) 11 beta iterations to fix?"
One word: WLAN.
(There are probably other areas, too).
Or possibly that it's so low on the priority list that nobody is working on that one. Remember that at any time there are thousands of bugs reported for any build of OS X. These bugs get into a priority list depending on the severity. If a bug crashes hard drives and results in data loss, it's priority number 1 etc. Stuff like "the computer isn't shutting down fast enough" is extremely unimportant compared to other more serious issues.
Nothing was worse than Lion. Not until the last update that fixed most of the bugs. I don't think I had Lion installed for more than a few days before going back to Snow Leopard. With Mountain Lion, at least its usable and doesn't crash on my MBP 15" mid-2010
I'm thinking 10.8.3 can be the last or second to last update for ML. So they are making sure all the bugs are worked out. Presumably because 10.9 has some cool stuff that will make most people to upgrade.
I'm thinking 10.8.3 can be the last or second to last update for ML. So they are making sure all the bugs are worked out. Presumably because 10.9 has some cool stuff that will make most people to upgrade.
Of course. Do you think you are the only one reporting bugs to Apple? I have reported probably 20 minor bugs after Mountain Lion. Only one was fixed so far. None of them are crucial things though. Mostly UI glitches.
EDIT Most of the issues I've seen people complain about, above, have been addressed - That being said, you'd all be complaining if they missed something in a hurry to rush this out
can you comment on the sandboxing errors in Console, and the spotlight indexing bug introduced with 10.8.2? And, does the battery life come back to levels of 10.6.8?
Are those major points fixed in the latest beta?
Sure this is not a big issue, but pure sloppines!
And for some reason people do seem to bother. Look at the two threads dealing with this issue on Macrumors alone - they nearly received 70.000 views.
And why, because this is one of the core values of a Mac that was lost -> faster shutdown times than a PC
Sure this is not a big issue, but pure sloppines!
And for some reason people do seem to bother. Look at the two threads dealing with this issue on Macrumors alone - they nearly received 70.000 views.
And why, because this is one of the core values of a Mac that was lost -> faster shutdown times than a PC
There aren't threads for every bug in OS X. Most bugs don't effect everyone so people are unaware of them. People only care about the bugs that effect them.