Apple Seeds Fifth Beta of macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]

[jasnw]

Guys, come on, please quit whining about the whole 32-bit situation already

What I'm 'whining' about is lack of clarity from Apple as to what really happens post-HS. If 32-bit apps stop working post-HS, I need to dig around to find 64-bit replacements for my 32-bit apps (if they exist). If just certain aspects of 32-bit apps will no longer work, then I don't need to waste time looking for replacements of things that work just fine, thank you very much. Yes, I can just assume that all 32-bit apps will completely stop working, but why do I have to assume that? Why can't Apple just tell us what the heck is going to happen in easy-to-understand English so us poor slob consumers can make intelligent decisions??

 

[Markoth]

Why so 'difficult', you can use System information (app) and click on Applications in sidebar, all the Apps are there.
Below a sample, without App names.

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the way I see it, I have no time for the easy approach. Once a script's written, pieces of it can be reused to speed up other tasks in the future, perhaps tasks which cannot be done from a GUI. Plus, doing it from the command-line gives you maximum flexibility in terms of what you want to display. I could write it to show additional information about each app's binary with a small tweak. If I had used a GUI-based approach, I'd have to track down another GUI to give me the extra information I want.

tl;dr GUIs waste a lot of time and limit your options tremendously in the long run, they just have a much lower learning curve.

 

[justperry]

the way I see it, I have no time for the easy approach. Once a script's written, pieces of it can be reused to speed up other tasks in the future, perhaps tasks which cannot be done from a GUI. Plus, doing it from the command-line gives you maximum flexibility in terms of what you want to display. I could write it to show additional information about each app's binary with a small tweak. If I had used a GUI-based approach, I'd have to track down another GUI to give me the extra information I want.

tl;dr GUIs waste a lot of time and limit your options tremendously in the long run, they just have a much lower learning curve.

Yes-yes, I know, but it's good enough for a quick 32 bit app search.

 

[Ener Ji]

What I'm 'whining' about is lack of clarity from Apple as to what really happens post-HS. If 32-bit apps stop working post-HS, I need to dig around to find 64-bit replacements for my 32-bit apps (if they exist). If just certain aspects of 32-bit apps will no longer work, then I don't need to waste time looking for replacements of things that work just fine, thank you very much. Yes, I can just assume that all 32-bit apps will completely stop working, but why do I have to assume that? Why can't Apple just tell us what the heck is going to happen in easy-to-understand English so us poor slob consumers can make intelligent decisions??

I agree. I imagine we'll probably find out a lot more about this at WWDC.

 

[iamtheonlyone4ever]

No longer supporting 32-bit applications is a big deal but no larger than when Apple ceased supporting PPC architecture. As with any changes of this sort of magnitude there will be inevitably be significant complaints. The truth is however 32-bit has been on its way out for years now. Canonical has now stopped releasing 32bit releases of their Desktop operating system with the latest version Ubuntu 17.10 being only available in 64-bit ISO images.

Snow Leopard Server runs reasonably well in a virtual environment but from Lion onwards performance is throttled in a virtual environment due to lack of graphic acceleration along with the macOS platform demanding significantly more in the way of resources so there are limitations there.

Therefore the only solution to this would be Dual Booting two versions of macOS
http://osxdaily.com/2017/06/14/dual-boot-macos-high-sierra-beta-partition/

many companies are doing this, they are stopping support for 32 bit os which are now consider legacy, nvidia is no longer going to release 32 bit drivers for certain os, eventually 32 bit os will be a thing of the past, only people with old hardware that don't want to update will complaint about it, my computer can run both 32 and 64 bits but why do i want to run a 32 bit os with 64 gigs of ram and a 64 bit CPU, yes we can still run 32 bit apps on 64 bit os but c'mon, the same goes for apple apps, companies and/or developers simply have to upgrade their apps, if you really need to run a 32 bit app that is not longer supported on a newer version of mac os then install an older version of mac os in a virtual machine and run it from there, or install it on a separate drive, so you can multi boot, you can also dual boot in the same drive but i won't recommend that, is better on separate drives to avoid problems, i respect who ever needs 32 bit app support but i personally don't, maybe in the future we will get 128 bit os and we go back to square one. so the same that is happening to 32 bit apps will happen to 64 bit apps, like neo said, is inevitable

 

[dukebound85]

Tb 1 and 2 supported for egpu?

 

[davidlv]

I changed it to allow it continue, even with errors. Apologies.

Thanks! It works now without that error, but ignores apps in folders (not a big deal).

 

[Markoth]

Thanks! It works now without that error, but ignores apps in folders (not a big deal).

Now it'll find everything. Cheers.

 

[The Friar]

The biggest bunch of non 64 bit software on my Macbook is Adobe (what else is new).
Hope they are going to change that very soon, as long as we don't exactly know what type of "compromise" we are going to run into by still using this software.
If it becomes unworkable i have to consider changing to alternatives that will work.
Lets hope it never comes to that point.
I'm using Adobe Elements and photoshop Elements 13 and they aren't being updated for quite some time now.
Fingers crossed.

 

[dhess34]

Anyone notice a quirk in 10.3.3 where if you try to drag multiple items at once (be it across the desktop, or from one folder to another), only one item moves, and the rest go back to where they were? It’s easily reproducible on 2/3 Macs on 10.3.3 (one work, two personal).

Not a big deal at all, just a lil annoying!

 

[briloronmacrumo]

I'm using Adobe Elements and photoshop Elements 13 and they aren't being updated for quite some time now.
Fingers crossed.

Adobe Photoshop Elements 2018 is shown on Adobe's web site