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Apple today seeded the fifth beta of an upcoming macOS High Sierra 10.13.5 update to developers, one week after seeding the fourth beta and more than a month after releasing the macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 update.

The new macOS High Sierra 10.13.5 beta can be downloaded through Apple Developer Center or the Software Update mechanism in the Mac App Store with the proper profile installed.

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macOS High Sierra 10.13.5 introduces support for Messages on iCloud, a feature that was previously present in macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 betas before being pulled ahead of the release of the update. Messages on iCloud is also available in iOS 11.4.

The Messages on iCloud feature is designed to store your iMessages in iCloud for improved syncing. Right now, incoming iMessages are sent to all devices where you're signed into your Apple ID, but it's not true cloud-based syncing because your old messages don't show up on new devices nor does deleting a message remove it from all of your devices, both features enabled through Messages on iCloud.

Messages on iCloud also allows your older iMessages and attachments to be stored in iCloud rather than on your iPhone, iPad or Mac, saving valuable storage space.

The update also likely includes bug fixes and performance improvements for issues that weren't addressed in macOS High Sierra 10.13.4, but as Apple does not provide detailed release notes for macOS High Sierra beta updates, we may not know exactly what's included until the new software is provided to the public.

No other major outward-facing changes were found in the first four betas of macOS High Sierra 10.13.5, but we'll update this post should any new features be found in the fifth.

The previous update, macOS High Sierra 10.13.4, brought support for external graphics processors (eGPUs) along with Business Chat in Messages and several other bug fixes and smaller feature improvements.

Update: The fifth macOS High Sierra 10.13.5 beta is also available for public beta testers.

Article Link: Apple Seeds Fifth Beta of macOS High Sierra 10.13.5 to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]
 

groovyd

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Wondering when APFS will 'officially' support external hard disks without qualifications and 'I wouldn't do that if I were you's'. Would be even better if it also check-summed user data.
 

Milltek

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Hi,

Can anyone explain why it is that from time to time when installing a beta the machine does all the downloading, restarts, appears to go through the installation process and finally reboots and ends up with the previous version of the OS??? Usually, re-downloading and re-installing fixes this but it wastes an incredible amount of time.

Is there anything I can do to ensure that completes the install properly the first time around??
 

justperry

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Does anyone have the same UI glitch here, when my Macs sleep and I awake them you can see the Ui behind the login for a split second (a security issue), this is going on since quite a few High sierra including beta's, happened only on my 2012 MBP but started on my 2012 Mac mini as well on the last beta.

This only happens when both my Macs slaap just for a short while, not for a longer time like hours.
 
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ghostface147

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A few times today, since today's update, it has put my laptop (2011 17" MacBook Pro) to sleep and shifting everything to my external monitor. Weird. A tap of the space bar wakes it back up and puts everything back where it's supposed to be.
 

chucker23n1

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Wondering when APFS will 'officially' support external hard disks without qualifications and 'I wouldn't do that if I were you's'. Would be even better if it also check-summed user data.

I don't see how that hasn't been supported since 10.13.0.

Haven't seen a single horror story either.

Does anyone have the same UI glitch here, when my Macs sleep and I awake them you can see the Ui behind the login for a split second (a security issue), this is going on since quite a few High sierra including beta's, happened only on my 2012 MBP but started on my 2012 Mac mini as well on the last beta.

This only happens when both my Macs slaap just for a short while, not for a longer time like hours.

I have a similar glitch where it briefly shows, amusingly, the update installer screen. Progress bar and all. Then it goes to the login screen.
 

Phnwhowhen

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Can anyone with FileVault on confirm the sleep/wake issue when returning from Standby is fixed in this beta? It seems we're approaching final build for this version.
 

nheilweil

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Anyone get 11.4b5 to successfully sync messages in iCloud successfully Mac 10.13.5 beta?

If I delete a message on my iPhone, my phone warns me that message will be deleted on all devices and then it successfully deletes that message on my Mac.

However, if I delete a message on my Mac, it doesn't warn me, it just deletes the message and it never deletes the message from my phone.

This didn't work with the last beta on iPhone & Mac either.
 

Zenithal

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Not useful for people who prefer Android, but this is a nice feature by Apple. MS is going this way with a lot of things. Regardless of which entity does it, it does raise the concern for privacy.

Apple has publicly stated in the past they respect and safeguard user privacy. However, I frankly don't believe any company that says that, regardless of their track record.
 

LZozo

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Ever since the upgrade to this beta safari and xcode both hang once each. Hang in a sense, that it doesn't do anything, cannot quit or force quit, and I had to reboot from the terminal to get rid of them. I hope it is the beta and not a hardware issue.
 

lec0rsaire

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Messages on iCloud will finally eliminate the lack of my iOS devices syncing messages with the Mac. I can't wait to try it out. At this point installing the beta is probably not worth it since the final release will probably be out in a week or two at the latest.
 

Babygotfont

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Ever since the upgrade to this beta safari and xcode both hang once each. Hang in a sense, that it doesn't do anything, cannot quit or force quit, and I had to reboot from the terminal to get rid of them. I hope it is the beta and not a hardware issue.

Please believe it ... it is true
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Is the audio/video delay on Homepod fixed in macOS 10.13.5?

Will it ever be fixed :(
No. Yes, but not in my iLifetime
 

LarryJoe33

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Hi,

Can anyone explain why it is that from time to time when installing a beta the machine does all the downloading, restarts, appears to go through the installation process and finally reboots and ends up with the previous version of the OS??? Usually, re-downloading and re-installing fixes this but it wastes an incredible amount of time.

Is there anything I can do to ensure that completes the install properly the first time around??
Sometimes there is a firmware update, so it installs in two pieces. You should see the second time around updating the file size is smaller.
 

alecgold

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weird, I can't sign-in to my iMessage anymore.

Edit, 10.13.5 on a MBP 15" 2017. And Apple Watch login doesn't work anymore.
 

DeekinBlooz

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Jul 13, 2008
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The previous beta versions of this point release introduced a problem with shutdown (and restart) for me. That is, the shutdown would hang, and I’d have to hard reboot. This beta version appear to fix this. The previous beta versions also seemed to introduce problems with my Time Machine backups and Parallels, but I haven’t had time to test those yet on this new beta.
 
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