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Full release update for this beta? Showing as 15Gb on my M1 Mac mini updating from dev beta 4.
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Wow every beta release devolves into I don’t have it yet and where they are from. I’m so glad I have a life.
 
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I’m just going to stay on sequoia

No compelling reason to update

I am Orion curious. Never tried dia
Yeah Dia is nice, ui is minimal, based on chromium (but without the google bits), runs pretty well and has ai built in (but you know in a helpful way). Safari has been my browser of choice for 10+ years now, didnt think the clunkier ui in m26 would push me to use an alternative but without that compact mode i've got little desire to use it!
 
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Finder looking any better? Status bar still broken on loss of focus?

not sure what you mean about the status bar, but finder is still a disaster. all the wasted space and padding to add pointless shadows and rounding remains
 
Did they add back the compact view or is it still taking up half of the display with the huge address bar, favorite and tab bar?
Thanks!
I mean, I don't think it's taking up half the display. Maybe it's a little roomier than on the last OS (not near my work computer to really side-by-side, though). Tabs seem a bit better; although I can't quite put my finger on why/how. Sadly, there's no compact view option that I can find in settings or the menus.
 
Last build was not stable for me personally, but check the feedback on this one to see if it works with you.
I had some problems with certain software but with the new update to beta 5 they are gone.... but I would hold off if you're in the middle of a project....
 
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I mean, I don't think it's taking up half the display. Maybe it's a little roomier than on the last OS (not near my work computer to really side-by-side, though). Tabs seem a bit better; although I can't quite put my finger on why/how. Sadly, there's no compact view option that I can find in settings or the menus.
It was obviously an overstatement to make a point, but they release a new Mac with a 0.7” larger screen and scream at the revolution, then they make the menu bar transparent and say your screen will feel bigger and then they butcher the UI to counter compensate for the small improvements. It’s asinine if you ask me. But that’s nowadays Apple, zero common sense…
 
I didn't read any of your post, but I just wanted to come in here and say: "I know a lot of you may have complaints about this and that, but remember 'it's a beta!'"

LOL
 
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Pretty toxic in here, the apple hate makes me thinks most of the people in here are trolls. If people don’t like what Apple is doing then go get a windows machine and try that on for a while, see how that goes. It seems people are not happy unless they have something to complain about.
 
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Most people seem to use mac's with only one monitor or there would be way more complaints around window/spaces management across multiple monitors.
It's been atrocious for a long time.
This beta improves things a lot it seems.
Still a joke compared to windows or even Linux though.
 
They also better make laptop screens bigger the way the UI is going.

Get rid of all the remaining bezel.
Even slightly higher aspect than 16:10 would be very welcomed.
Something between 16:10 and 4:3 should become standard.
 
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