Apple Seeds Fifth Developer Beta of macOS Sequoia 15.1

DHagan4755 · Sep 23, 2024

Right now somewhere, someone is scouring the beta for new Mac identifiers.

tyrnnsrs · Sep 23, 2024

Well seems like the SD Card reader is still broken. It won't mount the drive. I see it in the Disk Utilities app but it won't mount for some reason.

reyesmac · Sep 23, 2024

If Apple is breaking what doesnt need to be fixed in a new OS, that could mean they are gearing up for some future hardware change in their computers that will need those changes. They sometimes break the older computers a bit while trying to make the OS work well with the new ones and if it means people want to ditch their old computer for a newer one they win by forced obsolescence. It usually takes the better part of a year to get the older computers back to where they were before the new OS broke them.

Realityck · Sep 23, 2024

Comparison of MacOS 15.1 Beta 5 to previous MacOS 15.1 Beta 4

macOS 15.1 Beta 5 (24B5055e)

Safari Version 18.1 (20619.2.5.11.2)
System Firmware Version: 11881.40.153 (M1 based Macs)
Darwin Kernel Version 24.1.0: Tue Sep 17 07:48:19 PDT 2024; root:xnu-11215.40.59~38/RELEASE_ARM64_T8103 arm64

macOS 15.1 Beta 4 (24B5046f)

Safari Version 18.1 (20619.2.3.1)
System Firmware Version: 11881.40.128 (M1 based Macs)
Darwin Kernel Version 24.1.0: Mon Sep 2 19:59:57 PDT 2024; root:xnu-11215.40.48~33/RELEASE_ARM64_T8103 arm64

Apple Music/TV is now 1.5.1.18 was 1.5.1.10

zapmymac · Sep 23, 2024

I saw no reason to upgrade to Sierra, or High Sierra back in the day, so I waited out those 2 years on Catalina. This might be one of those years (scenario) again. Sonoma has been fine for my m2 mini, why upgrade (age old question)...the only thing I can think of is security updates, as we now know Apple can/does hold back some security bits after the new os comes out....ymmv of course.

rezwits · Sep 23, 2024

Just a quick note, I tried to install the 11.1 Beta 2 to my Watch while using iPhone Mirroring in Sequoia 15.1 Beta 5 (w/ iOS 18.1 Beta 5, as to keep the screen awake and to watch the progress, but there is some kinda of connection interference with the installer, I'd be careful..!

Morod · Sep 23, 2024

wellander1 said:
And Ventura and Sonoma updates too.

Can you tell us what version of Sonoma you have? I'm on 14.7 since it was released last week, and I show no updates for it here.

zapmymac · Sep 23, 2024

Morod said:
Can you tell us what version of Sonoma you have? I'm on 14.7 since it was released last week, and I show no updates for it here.

same here. no new updates as of today and im on 14.7 (23H124)

tywebb13 · Sep 23, 2024

how about 13.7.1 rc 1 build 22H210 and 14.7.1 rc 1 build 23H209

tmckenna · Sep 23, 2024

I just tried software update, and it looks like today's update may have been pulled. I am seeing 24B5046f as the full installer.

Waiting to update,
Tom

tywebb13 · Sep 23, 2024

full installers typically come out the next day or when public beta is released

there is nevertheless an ipsw which has not been pulled.

downloading now

Morod · Sep 23, 2024

tywebb13 said:
how about 13.7.1 rc 1 build 22H210 and 14.7.1 rc 1 build 23H209

23H124 here for 14.7. That was from last week. Nothing else new here except for Sequoia, which I'm not ready to do yet. Hope they send out the Release Candidate soon for everyone, even though I'm not experiencing any problems that I know of.

tywebb13 · Sep 23, 2024

13.7.1 rc1 and 14.7.1 rc 1 are ota only and no ipsw or full installers yet

if you are having trouble doing the ota, you can check tomorrow for full installers

info from https://appledb.dev/firmware.html

AgentOSX · Sep 23, 2024

AAPLGeek said:
macOS has gone to utter ****. Pretty laughable that so many still upgrade to these extended public beta releases on day 1, especially when there isn't even anything new in a .0 release, except for more bugs and superfluous crap.

I put it on just one of my five Macs, and I regret it.

xxFoxtail · Sep 24, 2024

Mitthrawnuruodo said:
I was "hanging" on the Beta 15.1 track (from before 15.0 was released), and it gave an error saying my Apple ID wasn't enrolled... but after turning it off and on again only the "regular" beta track showed up, and it found the download...

Yep that’s what happened to me too. The 15.1 track disappeared.

ylluminate · Sep 24, 2024

lkrupp said:
I’m still experiencing the “good old days” of it just works. I roundly reject the idea that Apple’s QA isn’t what it used to be. If anything it’s much better. That argument is pure FUD and I’ve been using Apple gear exclusively since 1982. I've been through it all in the last 40 years. It’s better today, no question.

I've been at this as long as you and I call bullcarp on this. APFS is better - for sure and by far than HFS+ - but ZFS should have, and could have actually, made it. I know some kernel/CoreOS devs and I'm heart broken at the experiences they had during that time and - frankly - even more recently with their "proprietors." Apple is far, far down the vortical pull of the porcelain bowel, but it's still the only real game in town with the Linux fragmentation and WinHel..o.

PeLaNo · Sep 24, 2024

Memory movie stuffs in Photos app doesn’t work for me. Other Apple intelligent features work though

shamino · Sep 24, 2024

Realityck said:
Comparison of MacOS 15.1 Beta 5 to previous MacOS 15.1 Beta 4
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macOS 15.1 Beta 4 (24B5046f)

System Firmware Version: 11881.40.128 (M1 based Macs)

Can anyone share the firmware version (especially iBridge) for the Intel builds of these betas?

The BridgeOS that shipped with the 14.7 and 15.0 installers introduced a system panic bug on my 2018 Mac Mini. I'm hoping that the next release (14.7.1 or 15.1) will include a version that fixes the bug.

(I have send Feedback, including the panic trace files, to Apple. But I don't know how long it will be before they find and fix the bug.)

tywebb13 · Sep 24, 2024

tywebb13 said:
check tomorrow for full installers

full installers are out now

do these in terminal to check:

sequoia

Code:

for file in $(curl -# https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-15seed-1.sucatalog | grep com_apple_MobileAsset_MacSoftwareUpdate.plist | grep -Evw '(com_apple_MobileAsset_MacSoftwareUpdate.plist.integrityDataV1|InstallInfo.plist)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g); do
    curl -# $file | egrep -EA 1 '(>Build<|OSVersion)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g | sed -e s/"<key>"//g -e s/"<\/key>"//g -e s/\ //g
    echo $file | sed -e "s/com_apple_MobileAsset_MacSoftwareUpdate.plist/InstallAssistant.pkg/g"
done

sonoma

Code:

for file in $(curl -# https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-14seed-1.sucatalog | grep Info.plist | grep -Evw '(Info.plist.integrityDataV1|InstallInfo.plist)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g); do
    curl -# $file | egrep -EA 1 '(>Build<|OSVersion)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g | sed -e s/"<key>"//g -e s/"<\/key>"//g -e s/\ //g
    echo $file | sed -e "s/Info.plist/InstallAssistant.pkg/g"
done

ventura

Code:

for file in $(curl -# https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-13seed-1.sucatalog | grep Info.plist | grep -Evw '(Info.plist.integrityDataV1|InstallInfo.plist)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g); do
    curl -# $file | egrep -EA 1 '(>Build<|OSVersion)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g | sed -e s/"<key>"//g -e s/"<\/key>"//g -e s/\ //g
    echo $file | sed -e "s/Info.plist/InstallAssistant.pkg/g"
done

links to latest installassistant.pkg will be displayed on the bottom of the list with respective build number

code can be modified for public releases, just remove the word "seed" in sucatalog link

Realityck · Sep 24, 2024

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if #available(iOSApplicationExtension 18.0, *) {
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UIKit

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yukari · Sep 24, 2024

tyrnnsrs said:
Well seems like the SD Card reader is still broken. It won't mount the drive. I see it in the Disk Utilities app but it won't mount for some reason.

It works on my 2018 MBP with ACASIS multiple port unit. Maybe it depends on the SD reader used?

Adora · Sep 24, 2024

Was that icon always green? It feels somehow strange, as if I never saw it.

After the reboot it opened just a bunch of apps that were closed since hours or yesterday. At least 2 browser that I didn't use today were launched.

Adora · Sep 24, 2024

tywebb13 said:
full installers typically come out the next day or when public beta is released

there is nevertheless an ipsw which has not been pulled.

downloading now

View attachment 2426620

Finally a full Installer. If I knew before I used this to update. There is even one for Beta 4 now.

Adora · Sep 24, 2024

tywebb13 said:

full installers are out now

do these in terminal to check:

sequoia

Code:

for file in $(curl -# https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-15seed-1.sucatalog | grep com_apple_MobileAsset_MacSoftwareUpdate.plist | grep -Evw '(com_apple_MobileAsset_MacSoftwareUpdate.plist.integrityDataV1|InstallInfo.plist)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g); do
    curl -# $file | egrep -EA 1 '(>Build<|OSVersion)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g | sed -e s/"<key>"//g -e s/"<\/key>"//g -e s/\ //g
    echo $file | sed -e "s/com_apple_MobileAsset_MacSoftwareUpdate.plist/InstallAssistant.pkg/g"
done

sonoma

Code:

for file in $(curl -# https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-14seed-1.sucatalog | grep Info.plist | grep -Evw '(Info.plist.integrityDataV1|InstallInfo.plist)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g); do
    curl -# $file | egrep -EA 1 '(>Build<|OSVersion)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g | sed -e s/"<key>"//g -e s/"<\/key>"//g -e s/\ //g
    echo $file | sed -e "s/Info.plist/InstallAssistant.pkg/g"
done

ventura

Code:

for file in $(curl -# https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-13seed-1.sucatalog | grep Info.plist | grep -Evw '(Info.plist.integrityDataV1|InstallInfo.plist)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g); do
    curl -# $file | egrep -EA 1 '(>Build<|OSVersion)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g | sed -e s/"<key>"//g -e s/"<\/key>"//g -e s/\ //g
    echo $file | sed -e "s/Info.plist/InstallAssistant.pkg/g"
done

links to latest installassistant.pkg will be displayed on the bottom of the list with respective build number

code can be modified for public releases, just remove the word "seed" in sucatalog link

I always use this:

Code:

--list-full-installers
Finding available software
Software Update found the following full installers:
* Title: macOS Sequoia Beta, Version: 15.1, Size: 14186780KiB, Build: 24B5055e, Deferred: NO
* Title: macOS Sequoia, Version: 15.0, Size: 14138558KiB, Build: 24A335, Deferred: NO
* Title: macOS Sonoma, Version: 14.7, Size: 13343514KiB, Build: 23H124, Deferred: NO
* Title: macOS Sonoma, Version: 14.6.1, Size: 13340696KiB, Build: 23G93, Deferred: NO
* Title: macOS Sonoma, Version: 14.6, Size: 13339695KiB, Build: 23G80, Deferred: NO
* Title: macOS Sonoma, Version: 14.4.1, Size: 13298513KiB, Build: 23E224, Deferred: NO
* Title: macOS Ventura, Version: 13.7, Size: 11922748KiB, Build: 22H123, Deferred: NO
* Title: macOS Ventura, Version: 13.6.9, Size: 11920840KiB, Build: 22G830, Deferred: NO
* Title: macOS Ventura, Version: 13.6.8, Size: 11922165KiB, Build: 22G820, Deferred: NO
* Title: macOS Ventura, Version: 13.6.6, Size: 11917983KiB, Build: 22G630, Deferred: NO

And then go to the Dev. Portal or another site, where the download is.

Seems it isn't in the Dev. Downloads anymore. I always looked there first until a while ago. That site is also nice.

macOS Sequoia Full Installer Database. Download Directly from Apple!

Download macOS Sequoia full installer with one click straight from Apple! Every version of Sequoia Beta & Final available all in one place!!

mrmacintosh.com

Adora · Sep 24, 2024

Somehow Beta 4 made it to the App Store, already 5 days ago. You only find it by entering: macos sequoia beta

‎macOS Sequoia Beta

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