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Apple Seeds First Betas of iOS 13.3 and iPadOS 13.3 to Public Beta Testers

Here's a PSA to all you folks getting ready to post some weird stuff about the beta:
  1. All software has bugs.
  2. Running beta software is dangerous. Do it at your own risk.
  3. Apple's bugs are no worse than Google/Samsung/M$/etc. Software is buggy!
  4. Software development is hard, and you (probably) wouldn't be able to do it any better. If you believe you would, go apply to work for Apple.
  5. Please, please, please submit bug reports through the feedback app. That's the only reason you should run a beta: to find and report bugs.
Okay! Game on!
 
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anthogag said:
I use the native email app.

If you're having problems with your MS outlook or live email account in the iOS native email app delete the account then add it again. This fixed my @live.com issue where I could not delete emails from the inbox. They would reappear.
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I have tried that. That is only one of the problems. When forwarding email it often dumps the message. The blue bubble never goes away often. If it is a calender invite it is hit or miss as to if I will actually accept, as in really accept a meeting. All was FINE until I upgrade to 13.x.
 
What Beta version is this are we still on Beta 1 for 13.3. I mean once you get to around 2-3 you can run the risk of having that as a daily driver. But straight off the bat is a little ... well i don't have the balls for that
 
Premal212 said:
What Beta version is this are we still on Beta 1 for 13.3. I mean once you get to around 2-3 you can run the risk of having that as a daily driver. But straight off the bat is a little ... well i don't have the balls for that
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This is iOS 13.3 beta 1 :) you’ll want to wait a couple weeks for 2.

I’m running the beta 1 right now and it’s great so far - but I can understand why you’d want to wait!
 
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This can not be addressed by throwing simply more people at the problem. System software has a huge complexity anyway… this is hard by definition. It probably would help more to reduce the number of meetings these people have to attend to than to threw more people at it.

Anyway, there was some decision making along the process where QA was either involved too late or not heard, or there were internal dependencies that forced their hand to release it though they knew it was broken.

We'll probably never know if they were frantically working on a solution for this the whole time, or if it got important only after some very prominent developers revolted in public. After all, after a few weeks it will be fixed for everyone, while most of the Androids still run system versions that are years out of date.
 
GtrDude said:
My wish list for things to be included in the next iOS:
1. redesign the notification center. It's ridiculous.
2. add haptic feedback to the keyboard, and better yet, make it possible to customize different intensities to your heart's content.
Those who are concerned with battery can just turn it off.
3. make it possible to adjust volume for independent apps/settings and not this general thing they're doing, forcing you to do it while the thing is being played, such as separate volume control for keyboard volume, music volume, ring volume, system volume...hey...much like Android.
4. add suggestions from the address book when you're dialing a phone number. Common now Apple.
5. make it possible to customize the texting app in every conceivable way. Font size, bubble size shape color.
6. make it possible to schedule a message to be sent at a certain time/date.
7. make it possible to move the icons anywhere you want to.
8. make it possible to stitch screen shots right there as you're taking them.
9. Use an OS-wide clipboard.
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Basically: "be Android"?
 
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I don’t understand why people complain about abstract things like “RAM management”. I couldn’t care less, although I understand there are some minor annoyances and there is thus something to fix ultimately.

FAR more serious are the hotspot issues, like impossibility to connect to internet thru hotspot with Windows-7 computer since 13.2.
That kind of issue simple distroys functionality that can be crucial for some people!
 
Glad to see a corporate of the size like Apple frequently releasing software updates to its key product. With iOS 13 they did a giant leap when it comes to implementing user requests imo.
 
FlyingDutch said:
That’s not how things work in software development. You don’t need just more people to solve issues.
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Yes it is how it works to an extent. That, and firing the ones not doing well...
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calstanford said:
So, do I have to install betas now to have a semi-functioning iPad?

an iPad Pro with no multitasking is so iPhone 3G, I can't even
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I't more like iphone 2g with no app store. It's that bad.
 
load97 said:
Yes it is how it works to an extent. That, and firing the ones not doing well...
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I't more like iphone 2g with no app store. It's that bad.
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There's no App Store or the ability to install and use other apps?
 
load97 said:
I't more like iphone 2g with no app store. It's that bad.
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My iPhone 2g can’t even load MacRumors’ front page in Safari. I let it go for a good 5 minutes but its JavaScript engine just isn’t up to the task.
 
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falkon-engine said:
Is the public beta the same seed as the developer beta?
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The GM versions also had several bugs, least of which was the memory handling issue in 13.2. But the disclaimer for any beta is, don't use on your daily driver unless you're willing to take the risk. I've been taking the risk for years but, that's just me.
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Yup. Love to test on my iPad, but never on the phone.
 
Having problems with mail.app again. Won’t delete messages edit>select all>delete all won’t delete. Have to delete one by one. This was a problem, along with many other email issues in iOS 13, but was fixed in at least 13.2 but it’s broken again in 13.3 beta 1.

edit- also some deleted mails will reappear after a while and you’ll need to delete them again.
 
GtrDude said:
Yes, almost.
But if Android has functions that help why not?
And still be secure and stable like the iOS.
Win Win.
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My guess is Apple knows it’s customer base and what it’s customers want. Some things that seem basic aren’t part of iOS functionality because , imo, their customer base has no interest.
 
I7guy said:
My guess is Apple knows it’s customer base and what it’s customers want. Some things that seem basic aren’t part of iOS functionality because , imo, their customer base has no interest.
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To me that translates to: "Apple 'knows' its customer base and said base will buy into whatever Apple says is 'right'."

Which is why I now use an Android phone and am this close to going full winblows, as much as it hurts.

Some things that seem basic aren’t part of iOS functionality because , imo, Apple leaves them NO CHOICE other than to leave the platfom.

When you're invested in apps, workflows, etc, that's easier said than done (but may not be as hard as many here think).
 
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Darth Tulhu said:
To me that translates to: "Apple 'knows' its customer base and said base will buy into whatever Apple says is 'right'."
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I don’t think I said that. Understanding a customer base does not mean the hundreds of millions of customers belong to a cult.

Which is why I now use an Android phone and am this close to going full winblows, as much as it hurts.

Some things that seem basic aren’t part of iOS functionality because , imo, Apple leaves them NO CHOICE other than to leave the platfom.

When you're invested in apps, workflows, etc, that's easier said than done (but may not be as hard as many here think).
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One has to do what’s best for them. I’m glad there is choice as, competition makes all better for it.
 
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