So what is your point? I think it's better to have a buggy version fixed fast than a buggy version never fixed. We already had countless of discussions about the release cycle and so it's irrelevant now.
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Apple Seeds First OS X 10.11.6 El Capitan Beta to Developers
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I guess they wanna try pushing 10.11.7 by the time 10.12 goes live by Oct with a false impression that they're doing the best they can to make sure El Cap's as good as SL... which we know it will not happen as long as OS X is on yearly yet buggy cycle...
We might even see a 10.11.7, 10.12 (Or whatever it is going to be called) is still months away from GM or even release.
That's exactly what I am feeling. Have any bugs actually been fixed in .4 and .5? I'm tired of the "We don't know what improvements the sixth update to OS X El Capitan might bring, but like prior updates, it's likely to focus mainly on performance improvements and introducing new bugs" copy-paste.
Then you're a fool to think that having a .6 means they did a better job than they had previously. What they had done was just shorten the development cycle of each maintenance releases to accommodate as much point releases to fool you guys into thinking they'd been fixing a lot more.
I'm sorry to just call you out, as I'm sure there are going to be similar comments to yours on this thread.
However it's blatantly obvious to me that you really haven't experienced Windows. There are CONSTANT updates that brick this and that. People talk a lot about how great Windows 10 is, but when you're doing tech support 40 hours a week, some of the stupid, crazy, backwards bugs you encounter will blow your mind; problems that are so face-poundingly frustrating to fix, so niche, so ridiculous; the incompatibilities, things randomly not working, driver issues, registry issues, malware issues ...
Christ, even Microsoft Edge issues! Heck, have you ever tried to RESET Edge if it doesn't even open?! You know, one of the fundamental things that a browser should be able to do? If IE doesn't open, you can reset it through inetcpl easily enough. But not with Edge. You have to shift-delete a load of hidden files and redownload the components through PowerShell. We're talking about RESETTING a browser.
And God forbid if you need to get a Surface fixed. Leadtimes of a month or over are not uncommon. If you had a repair with Apple that took more than a few days, you'd be spitting bricks.
Let me absolutely assure you that OS X and Macs in general are a bloody breath of fresh air. They always have been since I began using them with Pro Tools at University, and you'd bet your bottom dollar that they still are. They're far from perfect, granted. But they're comparatively SO easy to troubleshoot and way more reliable, both with regards to software updates not balking, and hardware not failing.
OS X 10.11.5, the previous update, was also minor in scale and offered only bug fixes with no obvious outward-facing changes.
Outside of password protected Notes.
There is a lot to fix. I have issues with bluetooth and wifi. Just today my Mac said no bluetooth. Had to reboot. Then slow slow wifi. I know it is the Mac because my iPad next to it has no issues.
Full ack! I too wish they would! Snow Leopard was absolutely perfect towards the end! Leopard was still good enough for everyday's use towards 10.5.5+. But I fail to find a refined OSX version nowadays, thats snappy, low on system resources and bug-free.
Probably impossible if you try to re-invent the wheel every 12 months though..
Welcome to troll harbor btw! You don't need to be a long time MR - contributor to conclude that Apple's current release cycle is neither healthy to the company nor beneficial to its customers...
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Maybe YOU'RE the fool for being so ****ing stuck to the opinion that this one-year cycle is awful. When you're fixing bugs, you don't take a lot of time, especially with a team like this. Apple could theoretically make probably 20 sub releases in a single year. But now, they have been making only five releases, with long periods in between them. Do you think they actually fixed more than they do now with the fast releases? And all the threads about this system freezing or crashing is just a lazy attempt at making Apple look like they do their job poorly. Trust me, this kind of **** has been going on for years. Be a little ****ing open for once and stop clinging to your silly ideals of "there's only one solution to this", even though I agree that a two-year cycle is better.
I've had this with my 2011 MBP for some time but just gave up on the hope of Apple fixing this. It's kind of sad.
It's amazing that I been running on beta releases for 3/4s of the year as of today. I don't believe I spent a full week using a final release of OS X 10.11.X.
It's not likely to happen. OS updates are now tied tightly to the overall Apple ecosystem. To maintain customer satisfaction with that ecosystem, new features in ecosystem-wide products like iCloud and Apple Music have to be reflected on all platforms at the same time. iPhone/iPad drives a lot of this, of course, as it's so much of the company's business. Since the annual product release cycle in the smartphone sector shows no signs of slacking off, the OS upgrade cycle has to keep pace. As some iPhone feature upgrades are really ecosystem-wide upgrades... well, you get the picture.
You may be new to posting here, but maybe you've been a reader for a while, and have seen the posts. Demands for even greater levels of integration between OS X and iOS continue. For some people, Siri can't come soon enough to OS X. Others demand that iOS have more "professional" Mac-like features, others want touchscreen on OS X... Whether all of these should happen or will happen isn't the point; it just points to an environment where cross-platform parity is expected by a significant number of customers.
Further, the popularity of iPhone has sold a lot of Macs - more than four times as many Macs are sold today than when the iPhone was introduced. Part of that is probably overall satisfaction with the Apple brand, but another part is that people want better integration between their favored mobile devices and their computers. All these Mac sales means Apple can afford to devote more resources to OS X development, and needs to. Changes that might have been spread across two years with a smaller team may now be implemented with a larger team on a shorter cycle.
There are people who say all these updates are signs of poor quality at Apple, but I find it all very impressive. The ecosystem has added an incredible level of complexity to the process; so many more places and ways that an upgrade or bug in one part of the system may have to be addressed across many other parts of the system. The fact that development teams can issue as many as four OS update in lockstep (OS X, iOS, Apple TV, and WatchOS), and that those may have to go hand-in-hand with server-side updates at iTunes/App Store/Apple Music, Maps, iCloud... And on top of it, the OSes are more, rather than less secure.
Has this ever been different? Only if there is a relatively wide-spread and clearly-defined bug, can a fix of it be reported.
Any references in 10.11.6 to new MacBooks? If they were going to release some at WWDC i would have thought they will ship with 10.11.6 installed.
The main problem with Yosemite/El Capitan is that they are just unbearably ugly ... so FLAT it looks like Windows 98. I tried them - what a horrible un-Mac like experience that was ... and I upgraded my Mac Pro by removing them, and installing Mavericks. At least that feels like a Mac.
Password protected notes were part of OS X 10.11.4. OS X 10.11.5 was released last week with just bug fixes and security updates.
I went into the Apple Store yesterday and looked at the new MacBook: the flat OS interface is so horrible, it put me off buying the entire computer. Oh dear. Will wait until fashion changes at OS X HQ and they stop trying to make the Mac look like an iPad.
The traditional Mac model was that Apple managed to carry a huge proportion of the Mac user base to the latest current release. That's great for developers and for Apple because it provides a unified ecosystem. That process culminated with Mavericks ... because Mavericks is still the best Mac OS X out there.
Subsequently, all the energy and effort expended by Apple on subsequent upgrades is largely being wasted ... the process of bringing users along to the latest version is crumbling as millions of Mac users stay on Mavericks or earlier, simply because subsequent OS X releases (Yosemite and El Capitan) are so un-Mac like, and so unpleasant to use ... mostly for visual UI issues.
Have you seen the rating of El Capitan at the Apple Store?? It must have the lowest user rating for any Mac OS version ever released. That's not progress.