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I'm even good with Mavericks staying around for another year. I have had such a positive experience with it, they could just do casual updates for the next few years, and It wouldn't faze me. :)
 
I'm even good with Mavericks staying around for another year. I have had such a positive experience with it, they could just do casual updates for the next few years, and It wouldn't faze me. :)

i will second this.. i have had a wonderful experience with MAV on all of may compatible machines....
 
10.9.3 is unusable with many pro applications on the Mac Pro, for starters.

Yikes! Like what? Do you know, or know where there is a "list" ? I am STILL on 10.6.8 because I like the stability it has and it works with my apps (esp. older ones). BUt all the new stuff requires 10.7 minimum if not higher. :( I have been debating taking the plunge but I am reticent.
 
re: unusable?

I *think* he probably took this from the report that came out a couple weeks ago over on 9 to 5 Mac:

http://9to5mac.com/2014/05/21/os-x-...cs-card-compatibility-with-critical-pro-apps/

It sounds like almost all of the issues center around rendering while using the Radeon D500/700 video cards in the new Mac Pro towers. This wouldn't affect Apple's own software like Final Cut Pro X, but I imagine it might affect a number of niche applications that do rendering. If you leave a new Mac Pro running 10.9.2 for right now, you apparently avoid all of these issues though.


Yikes! Like what? Do you know, or know where there is a "list" ? I am STILL on 10.6.8 because I like the stability it has and it works with my apps (esp. older ones). BUt all the new stuff requires 10.7 minimum if not higher. :( I have been debating taking the plunge but I am reticent.
 
New Magin Mouse battery

You sure the battery isn't dead? :)

I just changed the Magic Mouse battery. I did a search in Google and try many advices. Scrolling and right and left click is 0 k. but the pointer remains static. Now, I'm using a Microsoft Mouse (with a USB cable) and it works fine.
 
I just changed the Magic Mouse battery. I did a search in Google and try many advices. Scrolling and right and left click is 0 k. but the pointer remains static. Now, I'm using a Microsoft Mouse (with a USB cable) and it works fine.
Either your mouse surface is incompatible with the mouse or there's something over the hole for the laser.
 
yikes..

I only just updated to 10.9.3 only week or to ago..... Apple doesn't waste time...


Yes, bring on the bugs too :p

Apple still needs to fix the Network Utility app not saving changes, when padlocking the window at the same time..

Talk about your prioritization :p Rather than make developers do all the dirty work and Apple relies on feedback from them only, at least open the customer program up again for everyone to grab and pound on 10.9.4..

Apple did that for a reason with 10.9.3 ..... What happened that Apple didn't like about that ?
 
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This is a fix for those of us that have the new mac pro and cannot view more than 2 monitors at a time caused by 10.9.3.

I've also found that on my rMBP, once the screen dims to black it takes ~30 seconds to come back to life after tapping the trackpad or keyboard. I can't recall the last time a point release introduced an issue like that.
 
Maybe we can finally get the latest NVIDIA drivers instead of being stuck with the 310 drivers.....
 
While this is "unclear" to make this available to the public, even at this early stage, there is no second thoughts about this to me.

Look what happened with 10.9.3 when it went to all users in the beta stage.

You can't tell me that Apple didn't get enough feedback,, coz more bugs more be fixed.. WIth 10.9.4, if only developers have access, how is that gonna help anyone ? They'll just be more silly bugs to fix, thus more security/software updates.

In actual fact,, its only fair.

I can't even believe i'm mentioning this myself, and i'm not even a developer...
 
I only just updated to 10.9.3 only week or to ago..... Apple doesn't waste time...

That was the final release, this is the first beta. Final .4 may not ship for a month or two.

Apple always starts the next version right after they ship the last one, it's hard to imagine why they'd do otherwise.

While this is "unclear" to make this available to the public

Apple will probably release at least some 10.9.4 builds to the public beta, they may not release them all builds.

10.10 we'll have to see, they may do it, they may wait until later builds of it, or they may not at all and make the public beta wait for 10.10.1.
 
While this is "unclear" to make this available to the public, even at this early stage, there is no second thoughts about this to me.

Look what happened with 10.9.3 when it went to all users in the beta stage.

You can't tell me that Apple didn't get enough feedback,, coz more bugs more be fixed.. WIth 10.9.4, if only developers have access, how is that gonna help anyone ? They'll just be more silly bugs to fix, thus more security/software updates.

In actual fact,, its only fair.

I can't even believe i'm mentioning this myself, and i'm not even a developer...

Well this is only the first beta. Apple may ship the subsequent betas to the public.
 
It is safer to release it to developers first. If something really disastrous happens it will be for far fewer people to fix.

You wouldn't want a beta to ruin your mac would you?

When it is deemed safe to start releasing betas to the public beta program, we can probably see that happen later.
 
It is safer to release it to developers first. If something really disastrous happens it will be for far fewer people to fix.

You wouldn't want a beta to ruin your mac would you?

When it is deemed safe to start releasing betas to the public beta program, we can probably see that happen later.

But betas can go wrong. Part of the agreement of joining the beta is that you cannot roll back to a previous version. Once you install the beta you are stuck with it, until the next one is released or the final version.

Betas are generally quite stable, but nothing is certain.
 
Well you can roll it back if you know how to restore from a time machine backup.

I make such backups before and after each beta update.

Once I used it to roll back the mavericks developer preview 6 to preview 5 when preview 6 broke airplay mirroring.

So I know first hand that you can roll it back.

You just need to keep a record of when you installed each beta and when backups occurred so as to select the correct backup to roll back to.
 
Maybe we can finally get the latest NVIDIA drivers instead of being stuck with the 310 drivers.....

At least in this first interact Nvidia Drivers are the same version found in 10.9.3 final release. I´m also waiting for some updates here.

10.9.4 13E9 310.40.35f08
 
At least in this first interact Nvidia Drivers are the same version found in 10.9.3 final release. I´m also waiting for some updates here.

10.9.4 13E9 310.40.35f08

I have lost faith in apple updating the nvidia drivers a long time ago... they have had plenty of opportunity to do so in the last many many many updates, yet we have seen little to no change.
 
At least in this first interact Nvidia Drivers are the same version found in 10.9.3 final release. I´m also waiting for some updates here.

10.9.4 13E9 310.40.35f08

Well lets hope the changes to 10.10 brings in new drivers......
 
I went straight from Mountain Lion to 10.9.3 and ... I had the infamous Mail problem.

That freaks me out. For that one reason, I won't upgrade to Mavericks. My business runs entirely out of Apple Mail. I cannot afford any bugs in it.

Anyone else having lingering Mail bugs in 10.8.3?
 
While this is "unclear" to make this available to the public, even at this early stage, there is no second thoughts about this to me.

Look what happened with 10.9.3 when it went to all users in the beta stage.

You can't tell me that Apple didn't get enough feedback,, coz more bugs more be fixed.. WIth 10.9.4, if only developers have access, how is that gonna help anyone ? They'll just be more silly bugs to fix, thus more security/software updates.

In actual fact,, its only fair.

I can't even believe i'm mentioning this myself, and i'm not even a developer...


They pulled the update because there were secrets about upcoming hardware, there will be a new build publicly available in about a week.


I hope 10.9.4 fixes SMB 2.0, but I know it won't. :/
 
ok i can understand that, but they'd be secrets anyway..... well,, ok, not secrets but rumors...

Apple can't take this ?

I hope SMB fix comes...

only visually, but even though SMB connection, and your connecting over AFP only, you still see "Number of connection: 1, or whatever. on SMB. Disable and enable or restart sometimes solves this but only temporary.

Also experienced, once connected from Finder, u hen need to connect again via the an app but the data is stored on network.

Why should u need to connect twice? you'r already connected.
 
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10.9 was announced at last year's WWDC, wasn't it? It shipped in October. I assume 10.10 will be the same.



..Yes, what did I say?

By 'coming' I mean't it was going to be announced.

INFORMATION about 10.10 arrives next week. The actual product will probably ship three months or so later.

Yes, I am aware of that.

Are you sure the first beta is coming on Monday for 10.10?

Most likely. Mavericks did, didn't it?
 
They pulled the update because there were secrets about upcoming hardware, there will be a new build publicly available in about a week.


I hope 10.9.4 fixes SMB 2.0, but I know it won't. :/

The macrumors story in the other thread was incorrect.

Apple never pulled the beta. It just took a little while longer to update the downloads page in the mac dev center. Macrumors jumped to conclusions too soon.
 
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