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Get Microsoft Outlook, much much better. They have it for the Mac, I hate threads on Mail.
 
Maybe I'm the minority, but after a bit of training, I've found the new iOS Mail categorization has helped me quite a bit. Out of the box it was a bit off base, but as I've taken time to manually categorize incoming mail, it's started to do a lot better.
I really like the new categorization feature for the Mac and iPhone as well.
 
I will bet $5,000 dollars that the OS will still be too stupid to remember where I place my Stickies and Finder windows.
Every 5 years or so I remember Stickies exists, open it and see if I have any use for it. Then it turns out I don't and I close it again for another 5 years. (Honestly at this point I wonder if Apple has also forgotten it's there).

Last time I tried Stickies, I was totally a kook about using separate Mission Control spaces, and used it to make little labels for what each one was "for". Probably I was procrastinating doing some real work, lol.

Anyway, every single one of them was exactly where I'd left it, at the bottom of the screen.
 
One click per mail account, which I've already had to do independently on my iPhone and iPad.
I've got 14 email addresses in Apple Mail. It was 1 click for me. 🤷‍♂️

Maybe I'm the minority, but after a bit of training, I've found the new iOS Mail categorization has helped me quite a bit. Out of the box it was a bit off base, but as I've taken time to manually categorize incoming mail, it's started to do a lot better.
Not at all, I'm the same. After a few corrections, it learned quickly and the rest is in place. Great feature.
 
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Are all these posts about beta releases based on a template that no one has bothered updating for the past 9 months?

Every single beta post refers to "Apple ID" even though MacRumors reported on the renaming from Apple ID > Apple Account all the way back in June 2024: https://www.macrumors.com/2024/06/11/apple-id-renamed-to-apple-account/

The settings in the Operating Systems don't even refer to it as Apple ID anymore.
 
Every few years, I try to use Apple Mail and somehow just can't get myself to like it...anyone else have any other recommendations?
I am newish to the Mac, I got my Mac mini a couple of years ago and i was going to carry on using thunderbird which is what I used on Windows, but decided to give the Apple Mail thing a try and for the most part it is okay, it works for me.
Certainly better than the thing that MS supplies/supplied with Windows. I used to love outlook express many years ago, but MS got rid of that.
You could try Thunderbird, I don't really know what else is available on the Mac.
 
An interesting progress bar.

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That’s never going to happen. Thinking of all the times something important got labeled as spam that wasn’t. You would never get it.

It already happens all the time with many email providers. If the spam score is high enough, the message isn't relayed.
 
no ventura 13.7.5 rc 4 yet
the ventura 13.7.5 rc 4 is available now, 1 day later. it has build 22H525 - but only as ota so far.

yesterday the ipsw was available for the sequoia 15.4 beta 4

now the full installers are available for the sequoia 15.4 beta 4 and sonoma 14.7.5 rc 4, but not the ventura 13.7.5 rc 4 yet

EDIT: the ventura 13.7.5 rc 4 full installer is available now too
 
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I am newish to the Mac, I got my Mac mini a couple of years ago and i was going to carry on using thunderbird which is what I used on Windows, but decided to give the Apple Mail thing a try and for the most part it is okay, it works for me.
Certainly better than the thing that MS supplies/supplied with Windows. I used to love outlook express many years ago, but MS got rid of that.
You could try Thunderbird, I don't really know what else is available on the Mac.
I would just try Apple Mail. I'm using it with 14 email addresses, most IMAP from my own servers, but also with iCloud, GMail and Microsoft 365. It just works, has a great unified inbox, and when using Safari its also pretty good at integrating codes that may come through in mail. And whilst subjective, I don't think the UI in Thunderbird is something that belongs in this century.
 
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I'm still getting the incredibly helpful "an error occurred whilst installing the selected updates". There must be a way of clearing the pending update and starting again, but I can't for the life of me find it.
 
Thanks, I saw that fix but I thought it only applied to the “failed to personalise update” error so didn’t try it.

I found another fix - boot into safe boot, it clears the (broken) pending update, allowing it to be downloaded again then it installed as expected.
 
These Mail categories don't seem helpful, at least to me. However, it's got me thinking how great it would be to be able to create my own, and send some long-running work/project conversations into their own tabs.
 
These Mail categories don't seem helpful, at least to me. However, it's got me thinking how great it would be to be able to create my own, and send some long-running work/project conversations into their own tabs.
You can create rules which read incoming mails and can put them into folders based on various criteria.

Of course, this moves them out of the inbox, but another method (and one I use) is to change the background colour of mails depending on the sender. This doesn't sync across devices, but that's fine with me.
 
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These Mail categories don't seem helpful, at least to me. However, it's got me thinking how great it would be to be able to create my own, and send some long-running work/project conversations into their own tabs.
Don't forget that you can teach them and (re)classify them when they come in. But by far the easiest is to not use the unified view for your work/project conversations. :)
 
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