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AAPLGeek

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This OS is the worst in years. None of the updates even fix any of the counltess bugs. Can't wait for whatever the next one is to just have this lame ass OS over with.

I'm afraid it's all downhill from here on. The next one is gonna be even worse if Apple keeps up the tradition.
 
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Truben

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To Devs today
  • iOS 17.4 beta 4 (21E5209b) - February 20, 2024
  • iPadOS 17.4 beta 4 (21E5209b) - February 20, 2024
  • macOS 14.4 beta 4 (23E5205c) - February 20, 2024
  • tvOS 17.4 beta 4 (21L5222a) - February 20, 2024
  • visionOS 1.1 beta 3 (21O5197a) - February 20, 2024
  • watchOS 10.4 beta 4 (21T5213a) - February 20, 2024

AppKit

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed an issue where center or right aligned NSTextField appears blurry. (120819010)
  • Fixed: Resolves an issue where pointer style does not update when browsing in Safari. (121131986)

Core ML

New Features

  • ML Program models that are loaded with MLComputeUnits.cpuOnly will use a new high performance CPU backend that takes advantage of Accelerate framework’s BNNS library. (114037934)

CreateML

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed: When using the transfer learning algorithm option, the CreateML app and framework object detection template might fail to converge and cause poor model quality and produce more than expected false positives. (114480994)

Finder

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed: Resolves an issue where tiling a window causes the desktop picture to turn black. (118044617)

Messages

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed: Stickers (Memoji and 3rd party) might appear blank. (120994483)

Passkeys

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed: Registering passkeys might not work on certain websites. (122217903)

Software Updates

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed: Updates to macOS 14.4 starting from macOS 11.0–12.3.1 will not work. (120548971)

StoreKit

New Features

  • productDescriptionHidden(_:) API can be used to configure the visibility of product descriptions in ProductView, StoreView and SubscriptionStoreView instances within a view hierarchy. When building with Xcode 15.3, the view modifier can be used even if your app is running on iOS 17.0, iPadOS 17.0, macOS 14.0, tvOS 17.0, watchOS 10.0, visionOS 1.0, or later.
    When implementing a product view style, it can support this new view modifier by checking the descriptionVisibility property on the configuration value. (110414819) (FB12261973)
  • You can use SubscriptionStoreView to present promotional offers by adding the subscriptionPromotionalOffer(offer:signature:) modifier.
    If you’re already using inAppPurchaseOptions(_:) modifier to support promotional offers for StoreKit views, you should adopt the new API instead when your app is running on iOS 17.4, iPadOS 17.4, macOS 14.4, tvOS 17.4, watchOS 10.4, visionOS 1.1 or later. Do not use both APIs to apply a promotional offer for the same view. (115358806)

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed: The isEligibleForIntroOffer property and isEligibleForIntroOffer(for:) method now reflect ineligibility in cases where a customer would otherwise be eligible for the offer if they weren’t actively subscribed. This means a customer which is not currently eligible for an introductory offer may become eligible in the future.
    Customers who redeem an introductory offer for a given subscription group will continue to never be eligible for another introductory offer in that subscription group. You can detect this case this by checking if any one transaction with a matching subscriptionGroupID has the type property on offer set to introductory. (103604770) (FB11889732)

SwiftUI

New Features

  • Table now supports dynamic numbers of columns with the new TableColumnForEach. (79492167) (FB9189673)

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed: DatePicker in macOS reset focus to the first date component when its bound date changes and timeZone is overriden in the environment. (97376561)
Still messing in Logic Pro with Oeksound plugins since three weeks ago. Rosetta, oh Rosetta! What I would do without you!
 

fhall1

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Dec 18, 2007
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It's interesting to read the comments here about how this is the worst, buggiest OS Apple has ever put out....but then remember back to the very first posts after the first 14.0 betas were released after WWDC about how people were using it on their daily drivers because it was the most stable OS they had ever seen come out of Apple!
 

Emmanuel.th

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Mar 23, 2023
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It's interesting to read the comments here about how this is the worst, buggiest OS Apple has ever put out....but then remember back to the very first posts after the first 14.0 betas were released after WWDC about how people were using it on their daily drivers because it was the most stable OS they had ever seen come out of Apple!
I'm the one who said In the first version of Sonoma Beta, it was very smooth, but now I'd still say it's smooth compared to Ventura. But there are a lot of minor bugs encountered. And it frustrates me that it hasn't been fixed after I submit the feedback. I think the macOS software team has an mentality problem.
I found bug when edit names in Safari's Tab Groups in Ventura and they don't fix it. They fixed in Sonoma. Just like the stuttering animations in Stage Manager fixed in Sonoma.
No bugs have been fixed if go back to Ventura still found these bugs.
I think maybe the macOS development team won't fix bugs until the 15.0 major update. or they don't fix that maybe
Sound Sad
PS. Many bugs are very common bugs. I wonder if the people at Cupertino Won't you find this at all?
 

fhall1

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Dec 18, 2007
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I think maybe the macOS development team won't fix bugs until the 15.0 major update. or they don't fix that maybe
Sound Sad
PS. Many bugs are very common bugs. I wonder if the people at Cupertino Won't you find this at all?
Which is why I'm still on Ventura. Years ago I used to wait until the x.4 release to update the the latest OS. Then, probably about 5 years now, I wait until the next major OS version is released to upgrade to the last version of the "final" release of the previous version. So when macOS 15.0 is released, I'll upgrade from the last version of Ventura, to the most current version of Sonoma. This has worked well for me.
 

Realityck

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I'm the one who said In the first version of Sonoma Beta, it was very smooth, but now I'd still say it's smooth compared to Ventura. But there are a lot of minor bugs encountered. And it frustrates me that it hasn't been fixed after I submit the feedback. I think the macOS software team has an mentality problem.
Since you are going back and forth between OS's have you bothered to do a full wipe and clean install using DFU? Just doing it the normal wipe and reinstall is not the same. A factory reset with DFU does a complete wipe and redo of the system and appropriate FW for the target Mac involved. A apple store with an appointment can perform this for you. Make sure you have a external ASR volume to restore system files/applications/data from before you do this.

Also run diagnostics from boot options on the M2 MBP to reset low level system settings before you restore system/user data/apps/files from an external ASR volume. AS Macs don't have a separate option like Intel Macs. (reset NVRAM)

Also even if you submit feedback for problems with logs, the Apple staff still needs to match to multiple reports of a common problem so they can recreate it. Thats the chief problem, imagine how much time is wasted trying to recreate feedback they can't easily duplicate. So the few times I been contacted it's always some issue that a lot of people are experiencing not each and every feedback sent their way. Recording the date/time of the system event is critical to debugging reported problems with attached logs.

Finally you need to be running your M2 MBP in safe mode initially to see if such issues exist within the MacOS 14.x baseline.

 
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testato

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Which is why I'm still on Ventura. Years ago I used to wait until the x.4 release to update the the latest OS. Then, probably about 5 years now, I wait until the next major OS version is released to upgrade to the last version of the "final" release of the previous version. So when macOS 15.0 is released, I'll upgrade from the last version of Ventura, to the most current version of Sonoma. This has worked well for me.
When macOS 15 will be out (october) you will get three option to chose ? Ventura security , Sonoma last , and macOS 15 ?

or you have do jump just before macOS 15 is released ?
 

Darth Tulhu

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I can't remember why, but I got frustrated with Sonoma so much that a few months ago I reverted to Ventura on my M2 MBA and all my frustrations disappeared.

I'ma keep my Mac with the OS it came with until I can't (or rather, until Apple says I can't).

The walled garden sure is bittersweet.
 
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