It isn’t slow. Just nothing works, it’s a software disaster. For the first time in 14 years of Mac I’m not feeling like laughing at my partner’s windows laptop!!
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It isn’t slow. Just nothing works, it’s a software disaster. For the first time in 14 years of Mac I’m not feeling like laughing at my partner’s windows laptop!!
I even wrote to Tim Cook, his email is tcook [at] Apple.com
I can’t watch a single movie or video in full screen when Mail is launched, it splits the screen with zero new emails in the inbox. I reported this throw Apple Community Forums, Tim’s email, Feedback Assistant and Apple.com/feedback. I am starting reporting this daily now. It’s been like that from 3 versions of the OS.
Apple Mail for iOS when combined with Gmail is a complete disaster from iOS 13, never had so many issues.
If Microsoft and others does have a working email client with Gmail used as an email address, why can’t Apple fix their email client for their own platform?
If I was Tim I would fire 🔥 the leadership staff for the OSes, I would streamline and push more permission based telemetry an rebuild Feedback Assistant as a central user friendly peace of software that motivates people to give feedback, report bugs and everything in a more streamlined way.
OS 13 and MacOS Catalina needs radical polishing! These were the worst OS releases I’ve seen from 2013 when I start using Mac.
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I get them in all situations. Weird that it’s taken them so long to address. They obviously don’t know what the fault is and are quietly letting it go without address.
I learned the hard way with these types of issues. I used to be an avid user of beta software, but now I only use beta builds on my AppleTV. I'm now satisfied with visiting this forum to learn what's new on my Mac, iPhone, and Apple Watch. Apple used to be a bit more conscientious, with at least a little bit of internal testing. Apple has become so damn cheap; I believe Tim just cut out all of the internal testing to save money.
I should qualify that I've been a pro-Apple consumer for several decades, and I still believe they make outstanding hardware, and they were well on their way of having some of the best software too!
Conversely, Windows software has been making significant strides over the past few years, and some hardware manufacturers have finally started to build decent machines. If I were in the market to spend $5k+ on a new laptop, I'm not sure it would be the MBP-16. Sure, I care about the whole ecosystem advantage, but I don't need it on a laptop/desktop.
I should qualify that I've been a pro-Apple consumer for several decades, and I still believe they make outstanding hardware, and they were well on their way of having some of the best software too!
Conversely, Windows software has been making significant strides over the past few years, and some hardware manufacturers have finally started to build decent machines. If I were in the market to spend $5k+ on a new laptop, I'm not sure it would be the MBP-16. Sure, I care about the whole ecosystem advantage, but I don't need it on a laptop/desktop.
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Funny... I emailed him too, with Federighi in copy! Zero answer, zero actions.
When Bertrand Serlet was in charge of macOS we had the best os on earth.
Someone else that thinks they're entitled to telemetry...
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Someone please explain to me why people are fixated on installing Catalina? Why are you bothering?
Can't say I agree on ”nothing works”. I use it every day both at work (MacBook Pro 13" from 2018) and at home (unsupported Mac Pro from 2010) and for me it's overall about as good as Mojave stability wise.
With that said, this is a thread I've been following since I got that Kernel Panic once in my Mac Pro from 2010: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250715149?page=17
But it never happened on the work MacBook Pro and I haven't had it happen on the Mac Pro since Catalina 10.15.3. During Mojave I several times experienced the Bridge OS crash on the work MacBook Pro. Haven't seen that in Catalina (maybe it was fixed during the later Mojave versions as well, not sure).
So while I'm sure there are problems I don't know if they are necessarily worse than other MacOS releases, it's just that – for whatever reason and depending on usage – some experience the problems a certain OS has more than others. But maybe it's more bug ridden than other MacOS releases and I'm just being lucky.
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Can't say I agree on ”nothing works”. I use it every day both at work (MacBook Pro 13" from 2018) and at home (unsupported Mac Pro from 2010) and for me it's overall about as good as Mojave stability wise.
With that said, this is a thread I've been following since I got that Kernel Panic once in my Mac Pro from 2010: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250715149?page=17
But it never happened on the work MacBook Pro and I haven't had it happen on the Mac Pro since Catalina 10.15.3. During Mojave I several times experienced the Bridge OS crash on the work MacBook Pro. Haven't seen that in Catalina (maybe it was fixed during the later Mojave versions as well, not sure).
So while I'm use there are problems I don't know if they are necessarily worse than other MacOS releases, it's just that – for whatever reason and depending on usage – some experience the problems a certain OS has more than others. But maybe it's more bug ridden than other MacOS releases and I'm just being lucky.
Well, not even the most basic task of watching a full screen video can be done without having issues, like mail opening automatically in split screen. And it isn’t a new bug. It’s been like this for almost a year, on Mojave first then on this mess of Catalina.
And I can’t get over the fact that my $1800 phone doesn’t sync with my &2000 MacBook!!!!
Another quality release coming by the looks. Guess I will skip this one as well.
Sorry to hear you're having those problems, but I don't regonize them. I don't use Mail.app on my home computer, but I use it on the work computer and I don't recognize seeing that happen. Outlook coming to the front when just a reminder window pops up, that happens to me often and it has also been like that for years...
@Babygotfont I leanrt at 10.14.6 and the release of catalina. Spent time with apple analysing external monitor problems and kernel issues with 10.14.6 sup updates breaking things. Fix was in catalina they say...catalina killed my MAC. Inherited 4 more external monitor issues that were not present in 10.14.6. I've remainded on 10.15.1 until there is a stable version that addresses my issues. Once I get a stable version I'm never upgrading it again. full stop. I need this to work and each minor release from apple is impacting my workflow. Its coming to 9 months since they broke the original external monitor issues and seems like its just not important to fix. I have a MAC thats runs 10.14.5 perfectly no issues at all with external monitors. Seems it may take more than a year to get back to where the OS was. Quality in these releases is just not there. Every release there is some major new issue created that would impact my workflow.....staying put on something i know the issues with and work around rather than asking for more.
And you don't just return to Mojave because...?
It's always so entertaining... "oh my gods, Catalina is so horrible, it impacts my workflow and lost me money and hid my first-born child away!"
So you don't perform an easy install of the OS that works for you, you just complain about the one that doesn't.
@posguy I don't return to Mojave because I've not found an easy route to get to 10.14.5. I can not return to 10.14.6 which has the full installer because, as per the previous message, the WindowServer process conflicts with nightshift when you have an external monitor connected. It ends up with the kernel attempting to change the resolution every 1-10ms and subsequent CPU increases associate with that. Catalina fixed that but gave 4 other external monitor issues that range from incorrect resolution, continual polling of monitors while asleep, colour issues and an inability to read EDID data at start on occasions. I have 2 MACs and one I have left on 10.14.5 has absolutely none of these issues. The suggestion that I got from Apple was to return to High Sierra. While I could do that I don't have the time to roll back 2 releases to correct OS bugs as I have already spent a large portion of time with them trying to detail the current issues. All started with 10.14.6. If you have a full installer for 10.14.5 I'd appreciate it.
Ugh! I am one of those with the constant kernel panics when I try to shutdown. Instead of shutting down, it reboots to a white screen giving me the msg it rebooted instead. I thought I had it taken care of. It seemed to vanish for a few days when I took a plist out to try and fix a font issue. Fonts are now fine, but the kernel panic rears it's ugly head every time. I even called Apple for support and they talked me through all possible "fixes"..even the SMC reset. They didn't seem to be aware of the issue. I read this update would fix it, though, I haven't seen it addressed in the release notes. A quick update today is a freaking HOUR update. Are they kidding? This better fix the issue or I'm going to go ape-**** on those people.