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Thanks for the info. I will be waiting for the final release and won't be installing any beta though as I have done this many times in the past and almost always ran at some kind of weird issue. Maybe not immediately but at some point my OS installation was affected by the various betas I had installed. I think that 10.5.5 will come out next week or the week after, so I guess it is not a problem to wait a little bit.
 
But does it fix the crash-on-sleep for computers with T2 chips? And will there be a Mojave fix for those same computers?

I started to see see this again on my iMac Pro - since running this beta I've not had it again. I only see this on the iMac Pro, not on my 16" MBP so that's still running the non-beta.

I hate joining in the OMG Apple thing however Catalina across my devices has been one issue after another :oops: This is about the most stable I've managed to get my iMac Pro, Macbook Pro and my 2018 Mini. I almost don't want to touch it and let it upgrade to the next BETA, but hey ho.

Tons of stuff plugged into the iMac Pro - wondered if perhaps it was something to do with that? 5K LG screen, Samsung X5 TB3 Drive, an X8 Drive, an OWC TB3 dock, another dock that I use for my cameras etc. It worked brilliantly on Mojave. When I started getting the issues with Catalina I thought I'd just persevere and get through them - now thinking that was a mistake, but hey, hindsight.
 
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I wish that, since they’re not going to fix Catalina, that Apple would hold a bake sale to raise enough money to afford to hire a few high school kids to wedge the MBP16” graphics drivers into a mojave update. So all the people who blew $4000 on a notebook, in 2020 mind you, and got what is easily the least reliable and least useful computer I’ve ever owned, would have SOME way of getting some work done on this otherwise very beautiful thing, instead of just taking a massive bath on what would justifiably be the last major Apple purchase one could be expected to make.

i am hanging on to this thing while it sits awaiting an operating system. For a little while longer.
But srsly Apple, get it together.
 
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they better have. I have stopped using mine for a lot of the time now as the MBP 16 is faster without it now for most tasks.......
When you did use it, did it solve the problem of the mbp just endlessly blasting its internal turboprop while trying to drive an ext display with less pixels than the built-in Retina display? Bc drawing in CAD on a 16 screen is practically impossible, but cracking your glass desktop with the massive thermal gradient is worse.
 
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I'm still running Mojave, but I'm curious, and wonder if Catalina is that bad. Seems to me that Catalina is full of bugs and problems. Is it that bad, or is it just a perception from reading news and forum comments?
 
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Apple completely bungled catalina for MBP 16" users after 10.15.4 update, my display is black and I've tried LITERALLY everything and nothing works. We need a way to downgrade the stupid firmware from 10.15.4 back to 10.15.3, thats what is causing the issues cause I've completely erased my drive and reverted back to 10.15.2, which mind you was the most frustrating apple experience Ive ever had, but it doesn't work. Ive tried 10.15.2, 10.15.2 combo update, 10.15.3, 10.15.3 combo update, 10.15.4, 10.15.4 combo, 10.15.5 beta2, 10.15.5 beta 3. Windows 10 Bootcamp EVERYTHING working 100% smooth, the irony...
 
Does it fix the ‘not in any album’ Smart Album bug that has been present since Catalina first release?

The bug consists of this:

- Create a new Smart Album in Photos with this conditions ‘album’ ‘is not’ ‘any’.
- It should show in a Smart Album that automatically updates all your pics that aren’t already inside an album.

Since Catalina release that album shows 0 items, because Catalina ‘flags’ every pic like if it were already in an album despite not having been added to any album.

more info here:


thanks!
 
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I'm hoping they've straightened out the numerous eGPU quirks. 🤞
Nope, all the problems are still there, in fact 10.15.4 works better in certain conditions.
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When you did use it, did it solve the problem of the mbp just endlessly blasting its internal turboprop while trying to drive an ext display with less pixels than the built-in Retina display? Bc drawing in CAD on a 16 screen is practically impossible, but cracking your glass desktop with the massive thermal gradient is worse.
Nope, all the problems are still there, in fact 10.15.4 works better in certain conditions.
 
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I’m still getting kernel panic crashes while sleeping on my MBP 16 with beta 3. This really needs to get fixed.

I also can’t wake up from sleep in clamshell mode without opening and pressing the power button. I have hibernate mode disabled. I also have standby mode disabled. It will wake up if it has been asleep for a short while but every morning it will not wale unless I press the power button which kind of defeats the point of clamshell mode.

Hoping this year's update will be a bug fix and stability update rather than adding loads of new features that will just introduce more bugs.

Steve Jobs would be turning in his grave if he knew the state of macOS right now.

Try not sleeping ‘on’ your MBP. Sleep next to it instead. Must be terribly uncomfortable.
 
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It isn't tethered to the T2 chip. I get crash on sleeps randomly on a Macbook Pro 13 2015 model.
Pretty sure every single one of my crash logs mentions BridgeOS as the cause. I'd copied the top line from one a while back;
{"caused_by":"bridgeos","macos_version":"Mac OS X 10.14.6 (18G4032)","os_version":"Bridge OS 4.4 (17P4263)","macos_system_state":"sleep","incident_id":"4999364F-A71A-4969-9E02-49F4803D9071","timestamp":"2020-04-07 11:16:57.00 +0000","bug_type":"210"}
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this week I had a crash during sleep on my 16” I read disabling power nap could solve the problem but it was off
You and me both. I don't let my desktop sleep any more.
As for my notebook, that drains its own battery completely overnight despite wake for access, power nap and BT off. All since the last update.
To put the icing on the cake, iOS13 is a clusterf*** too.
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Apple completely bungled catalina for MBP 16" users after 10.15.4 update, my display is black and I've tried LITERALLY everything and nothing works. We need a way to downgrade the stupid firmware from 10.15.4 back to 10.15.3, thats what is causing the issues cause I've completely erased my drive and reverted back to 10.15.2, which mind you was the most frustrating apple experience Ive ever had, but it doesn't work. Ive tried 10.15.2, 10.15.2 combo update, 10.15.3, 10.15.3 combo update, 10.15.4, 10.15.4 combo, 10.15.5 beta2, 10.15.5 beta 3. Windows 10 Bootcamp EVERYTHING working 100% smooth, the irony...
I think it's to do with a firmware update as opposed to an OS update.
So once you've updated the firmware no amount of downgrading the OS appears to fix.
 
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But does it fix the crash-on-sleep for computers with T2 chips? And will there be a Mojave fix for those same computers?

YES! They fixed it in Beta 3 and it remains fixed in this one as well.
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it doesn’t. mojave beta doesn’t fix it either. Personally I’m fed up with it. Will probably sell mine soon when this COVID crisis is over.

Actually this does fix the power management bug that caused machines to crash during transition from standby to sleep/deep sleep. This has been extensively tested. And it specifically relates to the bug that was introduced / exacerbated by 10.15.4.
 
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Does it fix the ‘not in any album’ Smart Album bug that has been present since Catalina first release?
No.

Back in the days when I thought Apple actually read Feedbacks, so almost a year ago when the first Catalina beta came out, I reported this. It's been ignored ever since. The bug is still there.

Basically, the smart album should be renamed to "Is not, and never ever has been, in an album". If a photo is ever in an album which you then delete, the photo will never show in a "not in any album" smart album. if you delete an individual photo from an album then it works, but deleting al album doesn't properly clear the membership from the photo (and hence the smart album doesn't pick it up).

This won't get fixed. There are also many bugs in Photos related to metadata (IPTC, EXIF) that haven't been fixed.
 
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I'm still running Mojave, but I'm curious, and wonder if Catalina is that bad. Seems to me that Catalina is full of bugs and problems. Is it that bad, or is it just a perception from reading news and forum comments?
Catalina is B-A-D! Catalina is the biggest Apple mistake I have ever made, it has brought grief upon grief. DO NOT "upgrade" to Catalina or you will deeply regret it.
 
I have to say, on my 2019 13" Macbook Pro, this is the best version of Catalina I've run overall, in terms of speed and response and putting it through its paces. Exceptions:

C'mon Apple - fix Photos.app already. While you're at it, fix album art in the Music.app.

It's getting there - I sure as heck ain't gonna fool with another Summer fiasco beta testing the NEXT version when they screwed this one up this badly.
 
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YES! They fixed it in Beta 3 and it remains fixed in this one as well.
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Actually this does fix the power management bug that caused machines to crash during transition from standby to sleep/deep sleep. This has been extensively tested. And it specifically relates to the bug that was introduced / exacerbated by 10.15.4.
I really really hope this is the case.
 
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When you did use it, did it solve the problem of the mbp just endlessly blasting its internal turboprop while trying to drive an ext display with less pixels than the built-in Retina display? Bc drawing in CAD on a 16 screen is practically impossible, but cracking your glass desktop with the massive thermal gradient is worse.

My MBP has no issues driving my LG 24" 4K monitor whatsoever. Much smoother without the egpu..... I do CAD too and always prefer a larger screen although I have settled on 24" 4K as my sweet spot - 27" too big for CAD for me.
The egpu is good for rendering and larger models but not for general day use in my experience.
 
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