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Fixed the issue with Safari not showing up in Launchpad after a restore.

This feels very stable. I am unenroll and just wait for the final release now!
 
The problem with Safari sync'd tab groups hasn't been fixed. Grrr. I'm tired of closing tabs only to have them reopen again in 5 to 30 seconds. It's like freaking whack-a-mole.
 
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Why would a Safari update even need a macOS update? Insanity. Just freaking update Safari if you need to, instead of bothering the rest of us non-Safari users with an unneeded macOS update.

Basically, we hate Safari simply because it is constantly being shoved in our face when we don't even use it, and likely never will because it is a poor man's Chrome.
Are you familiar with the Safari Technology Previews? You’re free to use them with the current macOS and it has a slew of developer tools, and they get updated at least twice a month, generally with updated features and new web standards too. When they announce a brand new version of Safari at WWDC, the Safari Technology Previews generally get updated with all those features baked into the latest update, generally within a few days of the keynote.

 
This beta feels a whole lot better than the others. Seems to have re-remedied the power/heat issues on my 2018 MBP. Fans would go full speed most of the time under public beta 3. Seems there was a firmware update with it as the update included one of the "screen is off for a full minute but still updating" phases.

The adjustments to Stage Manager has significantly improved the usability and experience of it. It now respects the "Reduce Motion" accessibility preference. and they added an option called “Show windows from an app.. all at once” which means spawning new windows in a given app doesn't create a new stage every time.

Now if only they could have fixed the butterfly keyboard with a firmware update... have about 25% of these keys that'll double press every 5th time.
 
So I am finally using the latest public beta on my MacBook M1 Air with 8 GBs of memory. The performance is how I feel this machine should have felt when I first purchased this machine. Everything is wicked snappy, apps load almost instantly and nothing feels sluggish. Let's see how performance holds up over the coming weeks and months but I am very impressed so far.
 
So I am finally using the latest public beta on my MacBook M1 Air with 8 GBs of memory. The performance is how I feel this machine should have felt when I first purchased this machine. Everything is wicked snappy, apps load almost instantly and nothing feels sluggish. Let's see how performance holds up over the coming weeks and months but I am very impressed so far.
Same here. Same machine.
 
Just about to install it. Just had to use Edge to book some tickets as Safari keeps timing out and thinking it's not connected, I'm using Edge to post this. This was a clean boot as well, Safari just not working as it should. Fingers crossed...
 
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I’ve honestly never understood peoples vehement hatred for Safari — personally its the only browser I use. In the past I’ve tried FF, Chrome, Brave, Opera and probably others but the syncing and integration is too good to abandon Safari. I work mostly for tech startups and to my recollection haven‘t had any major issues. Chrome on a Mac on the other hand… chewing through CPU/GPU. No thanks.
Same. I used Chrome for years when I was on Windows. And have used FF and Opera for long periods. I’ve stress tested all of them and have just found Safari to be faster over the last year and used less RAM so I made it my daily driver. Just had to do a little searching to replace bookmark plugin I used on Chrome.
 
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Why the obsession for the worst desktop browser?

Anyway I installed the beta and nothing really gives the wow factor, I mean the new super duper features are just lame, plus no one of my friends or people I know in my country use iMessages (Switzerland), so basically for me and I guess I am the 0.0001% this update is just meh.
is Safari the worst browser?

I can think of a couple!
 
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you could say that for Edge on Windows.....
I mean, a lot of people do refuse it because it’s bundled with Windows. That, and Microsoft’s history of not-all-that-great bundled browsers.
But frankly, Edge is really not that bad.
 
I have a wired mouse, which has now started to vanish and it requires me to physically remove the USB connector and reinsert it in order for the mouse pointer to work.

Find my friends : It cannot no longer "find me" and just says locating.

I am finding that this update fixes some bugs and creates completely new ones.
 
The adjustments to Stage Manager has significantly improved the usability and experience of it. It now respects the "Reduce Motion" accessibility preference. and they added an option called “Show windows from an app.. all at once” which means spawning new windows in a given app doesn't create a new stage every time.

I hated the bouncing of windows when you use an app like Mail which can open and close many windows. So far this new option seems to make Stage Manager much more useable to me.
 
I can't seem to get unlock with Apple Watch to work... Reported to Apple.
 
Pulse Secure Client (renamed to Ivanti recently) does not work on this Beta. Probably it can't detect firewall and disk encryption settings.
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Does anyone know how to fix it? :(
 
Are you familiar with the Safari Technology Previews? You’re free to use them with the current macOS and it has a slew of developer tools, and they get updated at least twice a month, generally with updated features and new web standards too. When they announce a brand new version of Safari at WWDC, the Safari Technology Previews generally get updated with all those features baked into the latest update, generally within a few days of the keynote.

Nope, ha ha! Thanks for the heads up though.
 
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So I am finally using the latest public beta on my MacBook M1 Air with 8 GBs of memory. The performance is how I feel this machine should have felt when I first purchased this machine. Everything is wicked snappy, apps load almost instantly and nothing feels sluggish. Let's see how performance holds up over the coming weeks and months but I am very impressed so far.
This is great to hear and is making me look forward to the official release. Monterey hasn't been terrible, but it's not exactly the fastest OS I've used either.
 
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This is great to hear and is making me look forward to the official release. Monterey hasn't been terrible, but it's not exactly the fastest OS I've used either.
I completely agree! It really feels like Ventura is optimized for Apple silicon. I cannot wait to see how it runs on my MacBook Pro M1 Max with 64 GBs of memory and 1 TB SSD. I am going to wait until the official release of Ventura is out first but I bet it will absolutely scream!
 
So I am finally using the latest public beta on my MacBook M1 Air with 8 GBs of memory. The performance is how I feel this machine should have felt when I first purchased this machine. Everything is wicked snappy, apps load almost instantly and nothing feels sluggish. Let's see how performance holds up over the coming weeks and months but I am very impressed so far.
I can second that. It feels really snappy. Monterey didn’t feel slow per se but something about it didn’t feel as snappy/flow-y as Big Sur, and with Ventura it’s back to the snappiness I experienced in Big Sur.
 
OMG guys, I just updated my MBP 14" with the new Ventura Beta and is VERY different from Monterrey. Safari is really snappy like the upper MacRumors Brothers told. I previously update it to Ventura Beta 2 and it was a mess. Now is muuuuch better and it flows beautifully. Like it seems that Apple did THE macOS for THE M1s M2 etc. Monterrey was the transition macOS for a "M1 based Ventura"
 
OMG guys, I just updated my MBP 14" with the new Ventura Beta and is VERY different from Monterrey. Safari is really snappy like the upper MacRumors Brothers told. I previously update it to Ventura Beta 2 and it was a mess. Now is muuuuch better and it flows beautifully. Like it seems that Apple did THE macOS for THE M1s M2 etc. Monterrey was the transition macOS for a "M1 based Ventura"
That's good to hear. I would be interested to hear what you thought on Monterey. I feel that the OS is a little 'chunky' as in slow. still a few bugs. I also think is not as snappy as I am used too.

incidentally that's even after a clean reinstall!
 
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