Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.6.2 Build 10C514f to Developers

[heisetax]

We need 10.6.3 so 10.6.2 must be here quick

Because a new Mac now will not run on 10.5.8 because it needs at least 10.6.0 or 10.6.1 to boot, this would be a bad time to purchase one. With a new Mac there is no old OS to go back to at the present time. That's one thing that will keep me from updating my Macs. Maybe by 10.6.3 or 10.6.4 for that.

I'm still running 10.6.1 on a separate drive to test it out. So far I've been unimpressed with the OS. Maybe when I have more software that needs 10.6 & it is in a better operating condition I'll see some use for it. I still have a lot of friends that are running 10.4 on their Macs. Some say that they will update to 10.5, but that has been the story for a year or more now. Because of a malfunctioning ATI X1900 video card I have only been running 10.5 for just over a year.

 

[MrCrowbar]

Wait, hold the press.

GARBAGE COLLECTION? Would this be an indication that OS X Snow Leopard is actually putting out some proper support for SSD drives?!

Nah, it's just a feature that empties the trash once a week. Some people think they need a bigger hard drives when they could have just emptied the hundreds of gigabytes in the trash.

 

[jonnysods]

I'm still holding out getting this on my main machine - I have it on 3 out of 4 of our computers - I just want to see this working a little better and hear about a few less problems before I take the risk.

I'm concerned that it will render a lot of my software + plugins useless. My 3 machines have a lot of beach balling on very simple tasks, more so than Leopard.

It's good to see Apple are all over the bugs though.

Having said all this, I'm excited about the years ahead with GCD and what developers can write for SL.

 

[MythicFrost]

Awesome, how long can we expect until we see this released as a software update?

 

[heisetax]

More than 1 group of developers I would hope

Because I'd really like to not have to reset my iPhone twice a day to make/receive phone calls and text messages, which would seem to be a more urgent problem for Apple to address.

This better be 2 separate groups & have little or nothing to do with each other.

 

[G4DP]

Is there anything left, that is not getting a set of fixes?

Seems like the whole OS is being fixed in 10.6.2.

 

[Bokito]

With all the fixes to the core elements to the system I guess we better call 10.6.2 the real Snow Leopard. Guess it will take 2 months max until they get the final version out from Cupertino, then the core developers can finally shift focus to the next release of Mac OS X.

 

[jonnysods]

OpenCL needs to support the ATI HD3870. Apple's focusing too much on its ipods and iphones, they should do something for their customers who paid good money and made an investment (the mac pro users).

Preach that. I'm a little frustrated at the performance of my Mac Pro - tons of power, but it seems to hang more than my Penryn MacBook! I don't know if it's a gfx driver issue or what. Running 10.5 on it still out of the fear of using 10.6

 

[heisetax]

Bottom of the barrel

OpenCL needs to support the ATI HD3870. Apple's focusing too much on its ipods and iphones, they should do something for their customers who paid good money and made an investment (the mac pro users).

The only Mac computer or product lower on Apple's update list than the Intel Mac Pro is the Intel Mac Mini. As a 1st gen Intel Mac Pro owner I see that it is usually over a year by a few months before there is an upgrade.

I have 2 ATI 3870's in my Intel Mac Pro. The fans are quiet now, but I am running 10.5.8 now. This seems to be more of a time thing with fan speed rather than the OS version for me.

 

[Takuta-Nui]

No Airport Admin Utility for Graphite and Snow?

Dear me. Ever since that was rendered incompatible with SL, I haven't been able to change my wireless security to the proper settings when I want to use my Nintendo DS. Oddly enough, using the normal Airport utility didn't produce the same results as G&S - my DS wasn't able to access the wireless.

Well, it only helps me wean off my Pokemon games... Lookin' forward to a good ol' update.

 

[celticpride678]

I am hoping that 10.6.2 will increase battery life, improve Airport performance (maybe finally solve sleep and reconnecting issues), and just increase performance overall. The Airport issue has been around for a while, and just like bluetooth being fixed after a very long time of issues, so can Airport. C'mon, Apple.

But I say a good month or two of testing before this gets released.

 

[theBigD23]

I'm having two minor issues:
-When deleting files, sometimes a bunch of files, sometimes 1 or 2 from the desktop or through Finder, I get the delete sound, but from the delete sound to actually having the files be removed, take a second or so. Seems like there is some hiccup when I'm deleting.

-When opening a video with Quicktime X, the video opens behind other windows. It's doesn't open in the front.

 

[devburke]

All I ask is that they fix the Apple Remote issue. PLEASE.

 

[hampy]

I'm also hoping that the Airport/Networking issues are sorted out in the new upgrade - my Macbook has weird DNS issues with my Time Capsule wireless connection (I can surf the web but Mail doesn't send or receive), even though everything is fine on non-Airport networks. (And my non-SL Macs are fine with the Time Capsule.)

Beyond that, am I the only one who would also appreciate a setting that allows you to make Time Machine backups less frequently than every hour? I know there are third-party solutions to that, but why doesn't Apple introduce and support one as part of the OS? Many of us don't want our machines to get a laggy connection every hour, which mine does when it's backing up.

 

[iMacmatician]

As someone mentioned on the other thread…I wonder if there are any strings or modifiers of any new Mac models or hardware.

 

[devburke]

I'm also hoping that the Airport/Networking issues are sorted out in the new upgrade - my Macbook has weird DNS issues with my Time Capsule wireless connection (I can surf the web but Mail doesn't send or receive), even though everything is fine on non-Airport networks. (And my non-SL Macs are fine with the Time Capsule.)

Beyond that, am I the only one who would also appreciate a setting that allows you to make Time Machine backups less frequently than every hour? I know there are third-party solutions to that, but why doesn't Apple introduce and support one as part of the OS? Many of us don't want our machines to get a laggy connection every hour, which mine does when it's backing up.

I think the idea behind it happening frequently is that it keeps the backup size each time small. You could always just toggle the giant ON/OFF switch when you’re doing something where you don’t want Time Machine to run. Then again, I’m not speaking from the point of view from someone who’s done Time Machine backups wirelessly, so it’s never been a performance hit for me.

 

[blufire]

Wait, hold the press.

GARBAGE COLLECTION? Would this be an indication that OS X Snow Leopard is actually putting out some proper support for SSD drives?!

I believe they're referring to RAM garbage collection, not the SSD variety you're talking about (TRIM?)

 

[Eidorian]

As someone mentioned on the other thread…I wonder if there are any strings or modifiers of any new Mac models or hardware.

I nice to see you remember these buggers as well.

I just want to see the Open/Save dialog problems fixed and the column view back in Spotlight.

 

[akac]

Wait, hold the press.

GARBAGE COLLECTION? Would this be an indication that OS X Snow Leopard is actually putting out some proper support for SSD drives?!

Garbage Collection is a type of programming term. Memory in apps is either manually or automatically collected.

 

[akac]

Because I'd really like to not have to reset my iPhone twice a day to make/receive phone calls and text messages, which would seem to be a more urgent problem for Apple to address.

Have you tried a full restore to factory fresh settings? Its not something I've heard being a common problem.

 

[bplein]

Wait, hold the press.

GARBAGE COLLECTION? Would this be an indication that OS X Snow Leopard is actually putting out some proper support for SSD drives?!

No, it probably wouldn't.

Operating systems don't interact at all with the garbage collection systems of SSDs. Garbage collection internal to the SSD. They can, however, implement TRIM or similar and that in turn will help the SSDs with garbage collection.

They are probably referring to garbage collection in memory.

 

[jmcguckin]

orz...my 10.6 disk still remains unopen updates are coming out too soon

remind me again how a company sending out a rapid-fire set of updates in order to make their OS more stable could be construed as a bad thing? I mean aside from the handful of seconds it takes to fire up Software Update and let it do its thing (along with the occasional restart), I'm definitely not understanding your point of view... besides, you haven't even installed the OS yet, what are you complaining about?

I'm welcoming this update as I did *.1, particularly because of the Address Book and graphics improvements... looking forward to having an even more stable MacBook once I've got this installed (seriously, my experience with Snow Leopard couldn't be better).

 

[MikhailT]

Wait, hold the press.

GARBAGE COLLECTION? Would this be an indication that OS X Snow Leopard is actually putting out some proper support for SSD drives?!

No, they are talking about improving the garbage collection for applications, most likely Cocoa based apps that uses Objective-C 2.0's garbage collection which is an automatic memory management by the programming language instead of the developers.

Nah, it's just a feature that empties the trash once a week. Some people think they need a bigger hard drives when they could have just emptied the hundreds of gigabytes in the trash.

Funny but look above.

I believe they're referring to RAM garbage collection, not the SSD variety you're talking about (TRIM?)

Not TRIM, there's two separate things that is in the SSD world, the idle garbage collection scheme that is in the second generation SSDs like Vertex where the controller tries to clean up after its NANDs when the SSD is idling, and then there's TRIM which is an ongoing standard that requires both the OS and SSD to be aware of deleted files so that it can clean up those blocks used by deleted files.

 

[fjpoblam]

Didn't see Safari mentioned...

...but then, maybe I'm imagining things. Jittery instead of smooth scrolling on multi-link pages (e.g. "my Yahoo!" feed-filled start page). Inconsistent behavior with Twitter (sometimes very slow; sometimes out-and-out crash).

 

[visitronix]

Make Traktor 3 play nice with SL

Hoping this makes Traktor 3 play nice with SL or I'll have to downgrade to Leopard. (Again!)