I realize Adobe makes Flash, but Apple makes the system software that Flash is suddenly not all that stable on. I never had this problem on Leopard, but after upgrading to SL, suddenly Flash crashes regularly. Considering SL shipped with a downgraded version of Flash and 10.6.1 was shipped quickly to make it more compatible with the latest version of Flash, I'm putting the onus on Apple for this one.
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I realize Adobe makes Flash, but Apple makes the system software that Flash is suddenly not all that stable on. I never had this problem on Leopard, but after upgrading to SL, suddenly Flash crashes regularly. Considering SL shipped with a downgraded version of Flash and 10.6.1 was shipped quickly to make it more compatible with the latest version of Flash, I'm putting the onus on Apple for this one.
...really?
All I have to say is that SL is working perfectly for me. My benchmarks have jumped significantly, applications load in half the time, and the whole computer just seems to be going faster.
my only complaint is that i have to scroll through my application stacks on the dock...i want to see them all at once
All I have to say is that SL is working perfectly for me. My benchmarks have jumped significantly, applications load in half the time, and the whole computer just seems to be going faster.
my only complaint is that i have to scroll through my application stacks on the dock...i want to see them all at once
I'm not convinced it's Snow Leopard, but actually the current version of Safari 4 and Flash 10. Ever since I've switched to Safari 4 and made certain I've got the latest Flash from Adobe, I'm having all kind of problems in both Leopard and Snow Leopard with Flash. For me, Safari 4 basically craps out on lots of pages with Flash whether it's on my Leopard or Snow Leopard Macs.
The only real difference I see is that in Leopard, I have to kill all my browser windows and start over once a single one goes out to lunch. In Snow Leopard, it seems like I can get by just killing off the particular window and it's tabs.
SuperDuper! is also free if you just do "erase and backup" everytime (which is time consuming), and only $30 for the full version which goes a lot faster since you can do interval backups. I really don't get why people deal with Time Machine; yeah it's "free" with the OS but it's not much of a solution since TM doesn't make bootable backups (without a Leo or SL disc). SD is pretty brain-dead simple too, just schedule it to backup as often as you want and BAM, you've got an up-to-date backup that you can start working with on another machine should yours kick the bucket.
I know I sound like a SuperDuper shill but I just really like the program.
All I have to say is that SL is working perfectly for me. My benchmarks have jumped significantly, applications load in half the time, and the whole computer just seems to be going faster.
my only complaint is that i have to scroll through my application stacks on the dock...i want to see them all at once
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I hope 10.6.2 fixes the Apple Remote issue AND makes Stacks scale again, and only scroll if everything doesnt fit after scaling.
Interesting that they're still updating things to 64-bit drivers. I wonder if we'll get to see more 64-bit bootable support? Not that I need it, but I worry about my current machine two years from now when possibly 64-bit only 10.7 comes out. That, and it would be nice if we could just severe the ties with 32-bit as... soon-er as possible.
Wait, in 10.6.2? I tho it wasn't 64bit in 6.1. This is good news for those owners with Intel graphics.Nice, Intel X3100 drivers are now 64bit too.
Umm, it's always been this way. There's a reason everybody hate Flash on Macs. Apple can't do anything about it, they don't like it either and that's why they don't allow it on iPhone and are pushing for HTML5 instead.
It may have to do with the new plugin system in Safari 4 but it still has nothing to do with SL or Apple. No other plug ins experienced the same issue, it is always Flash that crash.
Flash is the number 1 cause of all my browser crashes including Firefox. It is the worst plugin ever developed for the Macs.
Why is it interesting? Apple doesn't stop developing as soon as 10.x releases, they always update drivers and so on forever.
They probably will set 64bit as default in 10.7, but 10.7 may still have 32bit flavor.
Welcome to the new paradigm, where Apple wants you to upgrade your HW in two years.
Why the hell are you even here if you're a PC user? talk about a person wanting to stir up a riot.
Tell me when Windows stops being a complete abortion - then I'll care what you and your PC offers.
find a spot for Yonah in your e-Waste bin
I seriously would not expect Apple to support 32-bit only "Core Duo" and "Core Solo" systems with 10.7.
IMO, Apple should never have sold any Yonah 32-bit only systems - they should have waited a few months for Merom 64-bit systems.
Of course, 10.7 will support 32-bit application binaries - but that's a different question from supporting the old 32-bit only CPUs.
I seriously would not expect Apple to support 32-bit only "Core Duo" and "Core Solo" systems with 10.7.
IMO, Apple should never have sold any Yonah 32-bit only systems - they should have waited a few months for Merom 64-bit systems.
Of course, 10.7 will support 32-bit application binaries - but that's a different question from supporting the old 32-bit only CPUs.
I doubt they'd pull support for it though; it isn't as though maintaining 32bit and 64bit would be much of a challenge; it isn't like they're maintaining two different ABI's as with the case of x86 and PowerPC.
What one might see is a gradual push towards 'all new features being 64bit only' - and maybe 10.8 being the last. Then again, there is no word on the situation with 10.7 yet
I agree with Aiden. Every OS release Apple throws a few more systems over the side of the boat. Core Duos and Core Solos are next.
But it depends on how quickly 10.7 comes. If it is slated for release end of next year/beginning of the following; the total time is around 4 years since the first lot of Mac's were released. I do have a feeling that Solo's will be killed off before Duos, then again, what evidence do you have that they're killing off support? the only example people have is the powerpc transition with a number of people left high and dry - but that has nothing to do with what will be the turn over in the x86 land. It is of no loss if they keep 32bit support around - I can't work out why people are creating doomsday scenarios when there is no evidence to back up such claims.
No Mail fixes??
With Mail eating 60Gb/day of bandwidth for some users (and getting them cut-off for fair-use infringements by their ISPs, including google), and eating entire monthly allowances for 3G data in a couple of days, I've been hoping this would be fixed soon. Currently the only way to stop is to quit mail - it repeatedly downloads mailboxes and attachments even if it's set to only check manually.
Hopefully they'll also add keychain support for the VPN as it's currently completely unusable.
With Mail eating 60Gb/day of bandwidth for some users (and getting them cut-off for fair-use infringements by their ISPs, including google), and eating entire monthly allowances for 3G data in a couple of days, I've been hoping this would be fixed soon. Currently the only way to stop is to quit mail - it repeatedly downloads mailboxes and attachments even if it's set to only check manually.
Hopefully they'll also add keychain support for the VPN as it's currently completely unusable.
I have no evidence - if I did that would be a scoop! But as soon as 10.5 was released with Classic support dropped I predicted that 10.6 would drop support for all PPCs, and that was way before the first SL developer release. Now I have the same feeling about the 32-bit Intel systems.
Apple operates in a fairly predictable manner. PPC systems weren't dropped all at once; every OS release upped the ante on system requirements, which gradually eliminated the whole platform line. Was there any reason for Apple to prevent 10.5 from installing on systems with a cpu slower than 876MHz? Apple's justification was performance (not true, as people have shown), and that will again be the excuse when they drop the 32-bit machines.
Apple is pushing users whose systems are more than a few years old to buy new hardware. They do that by gradual obsolescence, and the next step is eliminating the early Intel systems.
Why don't you have it set to delete mail once it has been removed off the server?
Well, they were obvious things. Classic was dead, PowerPC was dead by the time 10.6 was announced. There is no reason to kill off 32bit x86. Unless Steve is running in the competition to become '******* of the year', I doubt it'll happen anytime soon.
Btw, Classic sucks, PowerPC sucks. Thank god both of those pieces of crap have been killed off.
Again, based on what evidence? PowerPC and x86 are two totally different beasts.
Are you sure? the video driver is made up of three parts: AppleIntelGMAX3100, AppleIntelGMAX3100FB and AppleIntelGMAX3100GL - are you sure all of them are 64bit? or are you blowing smoke like people who claimed that there was a 10A435 and 10A436 with no evidence to back it up.
All very debatable points.
Not feeding that particular troll.
The evidence is Apple's past (and current, really) behavior. Other than that all we have at this time is opinions, so we'll just have to wait and see.
As the Swiss guy would say, YONAH IS DEAD
There's *every* reason to kill off Yonah.
First, Apple should never have sold Yonah in the first place - Merom was just a few months later, with x64 capability.
Second, most of the Yonah systems are older than the latest PowerPC systems that were killed off. Clearly a precedent has been set, and if you have a Yonah, you should be looking at buying a new Apple.
Third, by killing Yonah Apple can do x64-only OSX, and completely eliminate the 32-bit kernel components.
I'm surprised that Apple didn't kill Yonah with 10.6. Probably because they thought that they'd have to have a 32-bit kernel anyway to support the 3rd party drivers that would not be ported in time, so keeping Yonah around wasn't too much extra work.
(Actually, considering the poor support for the x64 kernel even on Merom and later systems - Apple itself was one of those developers which wasn't ready for 10.6. This is clearly proven if the rumours that 10.6.2 adds x64 support for X3100 systems are true.)
There's *every* reason to kill off Yonah.
First, Apple should never have sold Yonah in the first place - Merom was just a few months later, with x64 capability.
Second, most of the Yonah systems are older than the latest PowerPC systems that were killed off. Clearly a precedent has been set, and if you have a Yonah, you should be looking at buying a new Apple.
Third, by killing Yonah Apple can do x64-only OSX, and completely eliminate the 32-bit kernel components.
I'm surprised that Apple didn't kill Yonah with 10.6. Probably because they thought that they'd have to have a 32-bit kernel anyway to support the 3rd party drivers that would not be ported in time, so keeping Yonah around wasn't too much extra work.
(Actually, considering the poor support for the x64 kernel even on Merom and later systems - Apple itself was one of those developers which wasn't ready for 10.6. This is clearly proven if the rumours that 10.6.2 adds x64 support for X3100 systems are true.)
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Myself, I have tested it only with X3100 and thats works for sure in 64bit Mode with QE/CI/OGL, but the GMA 950 Files are compiled for 64bit too.
All I have to say is that SL is working perfectly for me. My benchmarks have jumped significantly, applications load in half the time, and the whole computer just seems to be going faster.
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10.6.2 should have been the original retail disc.
Ha, ideally.
But 10.6.2 sounds like it will go the first step toward making SL a solid release for a lot of users. Except those who upgraded/are planning on applying the Delta update.