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And THAT is NOT a mess???
How much of a fan boy one has to be...

Why do people believe stories like this? Don't get me wrong - I think he really believes what he wrote, but an OS install doesn't cause that kind of damage or prevent one from upgrading their machine. The issues lie with the person installing, not the software and from what I've read here over the years regarding various beta releases, some people should never install them at all.

During the course of this beta I've read some of the wildest stories imaginable - just like you read every single Summer beta cycle. The first and second betas had issues with the 2018/19 hardware, that was about it. I have a 13" 2017 MBP, no taskbar. My installs went without a hitch. I had issues with overheating and fan speeds, iCloud was a mess (still is, was, and probably always will be because Consumer-grade cloud services are crap by their very nature) and I'd even go so far as to say that the Mojave beta cycle was probably a lot cleaner.

It's a BETA - what do people not understand about this idea? Catalina is shaping up to be a great iteration of MacOS - what do people want? I know exactly what's going to happen. By about 15.5 or 6 Catalina will be humming right along and I'll be stupid enough to participate in the next beta cycle knowing exactly what I'm getting myself into...
 
If it’s october how are the going to explain to people that their reminders disappeared from their computer for a few weeks after they upgrade to ios13? Not having a compatibility option is a big deal. I know many who will upgrade iOS immediately but want to wait for macOS for months.
 
If it’s october how are the going to explain to people that their reminders disappeared from their computer for a few weeks after they upgrade to ios13? Not having a compatibility option is a big deal. I know many who will upgrade iOS immediately but want to wait for macOS for months.
Well there is a prompt on the iOS Reminders app (from what I remember) that warns you before switching to the new Reminders. People should see this and then think about switching to it and not upgrading their computer.
 
Anyone else having problems with final cut pro in today's beta release? (Dev 8/Public 7). All was fine in the previous one now it just crashes upon startup.
 
Why do people believe stories like this? Don't get me wrong - I think he really believes what he wrote, but an OS install doesn't cause that kind of damage or prevent one from upgrading their machine. The issues lie with the person installing, not the software and from what I've read here over the years regarding various beta releases, some people should never install them at all.

During the course of this beta I've read some of the wildest stories imaginable - just like you read every single Summer beta cycle. The first and second betas had issues with the 2018/19 hardware, that was about it. I have a 13" 2017 MBP, no taskbar. My installs went without a hitch. I had issues with overheating and fan speeds, iCloud was a mess (still is, was, and probably always will be because Consumer-grade cloud services are crap by their very nature) and I'd even go so far as to say that the Mojave beta cycle was probably a lot cleaner.

It's a BETA - what do people not understand about this idea? Catalina is shaping up to be a great iteration of MacOS - what do people want? I know exactly what's going to happen. By about 15.5 or 6 Catalina will be humming right along and I'll be stupid enough to participate in the next beta cycle knowing exactly what I'm getting myself into...

Umm you click update. That’s about it. Plenty of people have had crap installs over the years. Sometimes it happens. Reddit macOS beta is reporting several people unable to install and login after. It just hangs on the progress bar around 90% forever
 
Anyone else having problems with final cut pro in today's beta release? (Dev 8/Public 7). All was fine in the previous one now it just crashes upon startup.

Yes.

FCP Just crashes on open. I was working on a project and using an autotracker effect which I thought was crashing it from the logs. I removed it and then removed all plugins but still crashed. Deleting preference didn't help either. I had to boot from a Mohave clone to finally be able to work on it. In an earlier beta, my scopes were totally gone then came back around beta 5. This time I can't get it to start up even on a new user with no plugins and an empty library.
 
Yes.

FCP Just crashes on open. I was working on a project and using an autotracker effect which I thought was crashing it from the logs. I removed it and then removed all plugins but still crashed. Deleting preference didn't help either. I had to boot from a Mohave clone to finally be able to work on it. In an earlier beta, my scopes were totally gone then came back around beta 5. This time I can't get it to start up even on a new user with no plugins and an empty library.
Ah ok shame. I had the same issues in earlier betas but moved over fully to catalina when those issues were resolved. I haven't been able to find any workarounds so looks like it's back to Mojave until they figure this out.
 
Why do people believe stories like this? Don't get me wrong - I think he really believes what he wrote, but an OS install doesn't cause that kind of damage or prevent one from upgrading their machine. The issues lie with the person installing, not the software and from what I've read here over the years regarding various beta releases, some people should never install them at all.

During the course of this beta I've read some of the wildest stories imaginable - just like you read every single Summer beta cycle. The first and second betas had issues with the 2018/19 hardware, that was about it. I have a 13" 2017 MBP, no taskbar. My installs went without a hitch. I had issues with overheating and fan speeds, iCloud was a mess (still is, was, and probably always will be because Consumer-grade cloud services are crap by their very nature) and I'd even go so far as to say that the Mojave beta cycle was probably a lot cleaner.

It's a BETA - what do people not understand about this idea? Catalina is shaping up to be a great iteration of MacOS - what do people want? I know exactly what's going to happen. By about 15.5 or 6 Catalina will be humming right along and I'll be stupid enough to participate in the next beta cycle knowing exactly what I'm getting myself into...


Seems like your forgot about Snow Leopard (10.6-10.6.1), Can't recall exactly what happened but it wiped some users accounts data!

I could NOT update from the first 2 -3 beta's, took me hours/days to find out what was wrong, TimeMachine was a complete joke.
Apple themselves, for the first time ever, warned people not to install the (first) beta, it was unstable, and that's an understatement.
I used/use OS X/macOS from the first 10.0b, had a few bugs here and there, but not so massive as this cluster F....
Mojave was stable and fast from beta 1, even (much) better than the so called best version ever called Snow Leopard which as I said before deleted User Data on some if not many Users computers.
 
Music app received an update! The play/pause next/back buttons are moved to the left and the title and album cover are in a more pale section...
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[doublepost=1568267632][/doublepost]Podcast app received the same treatment also.

EDIT: Playlists in Music app seems to be fixed too! I had a playlist that was always going back in my playlist folder after each restart of the Music app. Now it stays outside of the folder, like I wanted. :)
 
This latest 10.15 Beta (19A558d) seems really solid to me (MBPRetina 13" 2015) - install went well and all earlier problems seem to have been resolved. Music app all good with Playlists etc all syncing properly.
Touching wood while I type this!!
Strangely MacRumors announcements seem to have missed the Public Beta release.
 
This latest 10.15 Beta (19A558d) seems really solid to me (MBPRetina 13" 2015) - install went well and all earlier problems seem to have been resolved. Music app all good with Playlists etc all syncing properly.
Touching wood while I type this!!
Strangely MacRumors announcements seem to have missed the Public Beta release.
They are still on the sugar rush from the new devices.
 
messages now crashing constantly on this beta for me as soon as you send one

Oh thats bad. I actually came here to say that they finally fixed the Messages bug. For me, in the last 4 or so betas, the Messages app was crashing if closed immediately after opening, they fixed that in beta 8 now.
 
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