Apple Seeds New Version of macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 Beta 2 to Developers and Public Beta Testers

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple seeded the second beta of macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 to developers earlier this week, but it appears an updated version of the second beta was just released this afternoon.

    The original beta had a build number of 17E150f, while the new update available today from the Developer Center lists a build number of 17E150g. It's not clear why Apple has released an updated version of beta 2, but the new beta is also available for public beta testers.


    Registered developers can download the beta from the Apple Developer Center or through the Software Update mechanism in the Mac App Store with the proper profile installed.

    macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 beta 2 didn't introduce any major new features, but it did change "iBooks" to "Books" to mirror changes made in iOS 11.3.

    The update includes bug fixes and performance improvements for issues that weren't addressed in macOS High Sierra 10.13.3, and it offers support for some features that are also available in iOS 11.3, like Messages on iCloud, which uploads all of your iMessages to the cloud. It will also support Business Chat, a feature coming when iOS 11.3 and macOS 10.13.4 are released to the public.

    macOS 10.13.4 also includes the smoke cloud wallpaper that was previously only available on the iMac Pro, and it introduces a warning when opening up a 32-bit app as part of an effort to phase them out.

    In the future, Apple plans to phase out 32-bit Mac apps, just like it did with 32-bit iOS apps. Apple says macOS High Sierra is the last version of macOS that will support 32-bit apps without compromises.

    Article Link: Apple Seeds New Version of macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 Beta 2 to Developers and Public Beta Testers
  2. loby macrumors 6502a


    Jul 1, 2010
    I have been sending feedback in on things that broke with 10.13.3 so I hope they are getting fixed...sloppy stuff that should not break with upgraded versions
  3. BaltimoreMediaBlog macrumors 6502a


    Jul 30, 2015
    DC / Baltimore / Northeast
    This 1 step forward, 2 steps back process and rut that Apple seems stuck in is very frustrating.

    There's just not enough new features to justify breaking so many things and adding spinning beachballs to processes that didn't happen before. If this has to do with the 32 bit apps thing, then I'll jump into that category against that too.

    If Microsoft did something like this, Apple would be making commercials ridiculing them. Remember the I'm a Mac commercials ridiculing Microsoft security? Apple is fast becoming what it used to ridicule.

    The poster child for this failed testing is the Command-B bug. How can BOLD via Command-B work properly in every word processing program or website like MacRumors, but yet work inconsistently in the MAIL program? This boggles my mind. Others say they do not have this problem, but it's nearly impossible for this bug to be just specific to my Mac Pro.
  4. hsotnicam8002, Feb 8, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2018

    hsotnicam8002 macrumors 6502


    Mar 13, 2008
    United Kingdom
    “It's not clear why Apple has released an updated version of beta 2, but the new beta is also available for public beta testers. ...” You been asleep? It’s full of serious bugs that make it almost unusable (with some graphics cards?). I don’t mind emojis usually, but at the expense of my preview and photos apps not working, then Apple can shove ‘em!

    Edit: Preview now working correctly and Photos will show full images when clicked, but the previously affected images still have red thumbnails. (Dare I try a library rebuild as I don't want to waste hours recovering from a backup?)
  5. dogslobber macrumors 68030


    Oct 19, 2014
    Apple Campus, Cupertino CA
    Sounds like a major bug was found which required immediate attention. The control-B bug referenced above in Apple Exchange isn't a stopper for the beta build. It'll be fixed in the forthcoming service pack 4 in March.
  6. cflem macrumors regular


    Mar 11, 2011
  7. asdavis10 macrumors 6502


    Feb 3, 2008
    I upgraded to this beta from 10.3.3 which was horrible. Can't remember a worse 10.x.x update. Things seem to be much better.
  8. tywebb13 macrumors 68020

    Apr 21, 2012
    Seed note says

    "Fixed an issue that may have resulted in corrupted pictures, Preview opening to solid red
    or solid blue, missing controls in QuickTime player, missing icons in the menu bar, or the
    failure to highlight items in Microsoft Office."
  9. iansilv macrumors 65816

    Jun 2, 2007
    Does it allow local network accounts to work with Office 2016?
  10. loby macrumors 6502a


    Jul 1, 2010
    Yes...but...betas are suppose to improve things on a journey towards eventual “gold version”, not a constant regress.

    Apple hopefully will consider more so a two year period instead of a yearly overhaul.
  11. DimaVR macrumors member


    Nov 14, 2017
    canniot get Imessages to work at all? sign in then says inactive, i log out completely than back in and get authentication error, i log out off icloud completely and back in, and still doesnt work?
  12. Superhai macrumors 6502


    Apr 21, 2010
    No, betas are used to find bugs in new, improved or optimised features. It is not unusual that fixes causes unintended bugs.

    There are no laws saying how betas should progress. But usually you don’t implement something entirely new between beta versions.
  13. Defthand macrumors 6502a

    Sep 1, 2010
    It is and it isn’t. The incremental updates are, but the over all OS has been available to the public for months now. The ongoing developments are addressing shortcomings and belated features with a released product, but it’s disturbing to hear how unpredictable the fixes can be.

    I don’t participate in the MacOS beta program, and I hesitate to upgrade to High Sierra since the quality of Apple’s coding has been uncharacteristicly flawed—an admission Apple made when it announced it would postpone additional features to focus on quality instead.

    Historically, MacOS has been the most reliable OS conceived. It would be a huge disappointment to see it de-evolve into something resembling Windows.

    P.S. I’m still irked that Apple proceded with a new file system that is incompatible with their Fusion drives, knowing damn well that an iMac’s harddrive can’t easily be swapped for an SSD.
  14. einsteinbqat macrumors regular


    Nov 3, 2012
  15. dprevett1 macrumors newbie

    Mar 19, 2015
    Fixed the dark menu and Preview images all red problems that cropped up for me upon installation of beta 1. No new problems observed (yet)
  16. amaze1499 macrumors member


    Oct 16, 2014
    17E150g - Runs like charm on my MBP 2012, HDD HFS+.
  17. RednBlue macrumors member


    Dec 17, 2013
    Reading UK
  18. Xardas220 macrumors member


    Mar 12, 2017
    Because of the „red images“-problem: I‘m on MacOS 10.13.3 normal release but in between times on Google Chrome on a video the outlines of characters or things are also redish. But only for a fraction of a secend. Hopefully this bug is also patched with 10.13.4. Maybe it‘s a problem with Google Chrome, I don‘t know and I don‘t think so. :/
  19. iBungie, Feb 9, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2018

    iBungie macrumors regular

    Oct 9, 2008
    The two additional mysterious folders, payloads & scripts, that appeared with an earlier beta have now gone.
    I had to replace iBooks icon in the dock as expected.
    Otherwise seems good so far
  20. tywebb13 macrumors 68020

    Apr 21, 2012
    I'm liking this version.

    Screen snapshots work better now. In beta 1 and the first version of beta 2 you had to change the format of screen snapshots to pdf for them to render properly in preview by running this command in terminal:

    defaults write type PDF;killall SystemUIServer

    (although not all computers were affected by this - but mine certainly was)

    So after this update I ran this to see if they fixed it to go back to the png default:

    defaults write type png;killall SystemUIServer

    and now the screen snapshots work in png format again.
  21. FixOrr macrumors newbie

    Mar 18, 2013
  22. amaze1499 macrumors member


    Oct 16, 2014
  23. bluespider macrumors 6502


    May 12, 2009
    Space Coast FL
    installed with no issues so far... on 2016 MBPro 15"
  24. fortepianissimo macrumors newbie

    Jul 29, 2015
    Is anyone experiencing problems with Chrome Remote Desktop?

    When connecting from this beta to a remote Windows 10 machine, the remote desktop is totally blank (white).
  25. SoyCapitanSoyCapitan macrumors 68040


    Jul 4, 2015

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